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re: True Detective S1E5 "The Secret Fate of All Life"

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:12 pm to
Marty is alpha as frick.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:14 pm to
True.

Biggest beta in the show so far is that weirdo who got his dick chopped off in jail
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:16 pm to
i don't think you can apply alpha/beta levels to mentally incompetents
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

Marty is alpha as frick.


HBO must be sending different versions of the show to different subscribers.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:18 pm to
alphas don't have to be leaders
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:20 pm to
Marty is alpha to the outward world. But when it comes to police work (and thinking) between Rust and Mart, Rust is the alpha for sure.
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:21 pm to
Yeah, Rust even moves beyond "alpha" and is downright "predatory" at times.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

Marty is alpha to the outward world.

oh that's what i was talking about

quote:

But when it comes to police work (and thinking) between Rust and Mart, Rust is the alpha for sure.

in this instance, but it seems he was pretty accomplished prior to this case (and a guy that group of cops looked up to)

this goes into my "rust could not exist in reality" rant, though, b/c it reinforces it fully and creates a new narrative
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:29 pm to
holding a dude down while asking if his mistress sucked his dick = alpha

"for just a little while " = beta
Posted by Mizzou to my Lou
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:29 pm to
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I believe that Cohle is involved beyond what we've been told. While I agree that he has been investigating this "off the grid" since 2002, I think that we find that he was actually investigating it prior to 1995 and it was why he actually came to Louisiana. I think he stumbled onto the "Yellow King" cult while he was in deep cover and needed to get out of narco and into homocide to pursue it.


I agree with this and think it might be more closely related to the death of his daughter than what we've been told.

The statement by Ledoux saying he recognized Cohle as a priest could be a hint that he's been undercover within the cult at some point.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:36 pm to
quote:


Biggest beta in the show so far is that weirdo who got his dick chopped off in jail


you leave my boy bert out of this
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:37 pm to
Ledoux was tripping and I wouldn't take what he says with too much importance. That is why I think they cut his priest remark. Just a drugged out dude talking shite if asked me.
Posted by ffishstik
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

I agree with this and think it might be more closely related to the death of his daughter than what we've been told.


Believe that as well.

quote:

Ledoux was tripping and I wouldn't take what he says with too much importance.


This show is too well written for that. Not reading too much into every little piece of potential symbolism like a still of Marty with his hands up that looks like antlers or the fact that he killed a ten point, but the dialogue from the Ledoux's can't be dismissed as the idle ramblings of an addict.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 5:58 pm
Posted by RebelOP
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:59 pm to
Halfway through the 5th episode. Just started watching the other day. H.O.L.Y S.H.I.T

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:12 pm to
Can anyone make out the map in the opening credits when the show the casting directors name. I can't make out the towns on it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:14 pm to
Grantland Podcast

if you listen to the most recent Hollywood Prospectus, go to 37:44. episode 6 is supposed to be why Greenwald had a problem with the show

no spoilers. he's only seen 6 episodes and they don't get into details about the actual episode

Posted by TheFolker
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:16 pm to
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No way in hell Marty kills a 10 point and uses the antlers for the murder. He would have that deer mounted and in the house for all to see. We know marty likes to brag, so we have to have kept the antler for show n tale.


You know what else Marty slayed that had a nice rack?
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:18 pm to
Ha I just listened to that while exercising.

He doesn't say that episode 6 is why he has a problem with a show. He says that the problems he had in eps 1-3, and remained after 4, once again become apparent in 6.

His problem with the show is, essentially, Rust, and the fact that show is driven by a moody machismo and philosophy he can't get on board with.
Posted by rsbd
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:19 pm to
It's on the wall in his house
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 6:22 pm
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

His problem with the show is, essentially, Rust, and the fact that show is driven by a moody machismo and philosophy he can't get on board with.


They must objectify women or minorities in the next episode. Grantland guy beats this drum to death.
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