re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

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I think there's an important difference between arguing well and being stubborn. SFP often argues well, but in this case he's bending the facts to fit his narrative.

Not that there can't be and aren't serious criticisms of TD, but SFP's are off-target and mostly about convincing himself that he's right.

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For whatver reason he doesn't seem like having an actual conversation about it. It's a pretty frustrating exchange. In discussions not pertaining to art he's usually pretty insightful.

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Was Rust a believable character? No.

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meh, i found it very believable. He experienced great loss with his daughter dying. It completely shifted his life into what we saw on the screen. I found nothing about him unbelievable. Now, if you judge his character 10 minutes into the first episode (hey SFP, I'm talking to you), then yeah. What we learn over 8 episodes gives depth and explains why he's the person we saw in episode 1 and thereafter. His character is 100% believable.

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Neither was Marty because guys without money don't have that type of pussy throwing themselves at you.

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Meh, both of his side pieces had integral things about them that would make this believable. A girl who works as a clerk of the court that he would have some type of work relationship as a detective. As a clerk, his occupation would appear to be one of power and influence. Heck, every time he testifies in front of her, he's becoming more of a hero to her.

The 2nd girl is even more understandable. He was the first person that showed her compassion and that she didn't have to be a prostitute. He gave her some money and told her to make a better life. The next time he sees her, he's a celebrity from taking down Ledoux. So, not only did he rescue her, he also rescued another little girl from sexual deviants. It is very plausible that she was worshipping the ground he walked on and would do anything he wanted.

Will the second season be based in Louisiana?

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SFP often argues well, but in this case he's bending the facts to fit his narrative. SFP decided during episode 1 that he hated Rust's character. He found him to be unbelievable. I would say that 99% of viewers found Rust's character to be the highlight of the entire show. So, he hated one of the best parts of the show. It's understandable that he's being so stupid with it. He made judgments about Rust's character being unbelievable and shallow prior to watching 8 episodes that provide depth and explanation to who Rust is as a person. And, SFP dug deep during episode 1 discussions and drew a line in the sand. And, he'll never admit that he was wrong. Ever.

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SFP is just getting those posts numbers high that's all

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Not entirely. His final words contradict the belief in anatta and nullify the prospect of reincarnation. There was a VAGUE reference to it, but if that was what Rust's character was TRYING to say, that would be out of character...because that would make him stupid.

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I think he just has an evolved belief system, just like everyone else who has ever lived. Maybe it has roots in Buddhism but his life circumstance has altered them. Maybe it has roots in something else, but he used parts of Buddhism to cope with his daughter's death.

The "time is a flat circle" metaphor is ultimately drawn from Buddhist reincarnation.

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I think he just has an evolved belief system, just like everyone else who has ever lived. Maybe it has roots in Buddhism but his life circumstance has altered them. Maybe it has roots in something else, but he used parts of Buddhism to cope with his daughter's death.

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I'm not denying any of this. In fact, I stated earlier that the entire point of the show was an existential exercise in discovering what was really "true" in this life. His final statements echo that.

However, trying to classify what he was saying as Buddhist because it sounds that way makes Rust come across as uneducated...which is exactly the opposite of his character.

If that's what the writer was trying to convey, it's pretty lazy.

All I said is that it sounded somewhat like Buddhist belief, which was in response to Bayou Sam's post in which he thinks he still believes in nothing, which I think is wrong.

Hey come on, I didn't say that he believes in "nothing," I just said he hasn't found religion.

Besides, in Buddhism nirvana roughly means "reduced to nothingness."

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SlowFlowPro

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Your level of self inflated importance is astounding. You have this deep, deep NEED for everyone to see your truth as absolute. These threads have been an interesting study in your incredible ego. You were yearning for this to go in the direction that it did, so you could spend hours of your day telling people, "I told you so".

You would make a great film critic.