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re: Trial of the Chicago 7 (Netflix) - 93% RT Score
Posted on 10/21/20 at 5:02 pm to hogcard1964
Posted on 10/21/20 at 5:02 pm to hogcard1964
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Because as I previously stated, it's based entirely on revisionist history. Let me guess...you thought Steven Avery was innocent? The Memphis 3 didn't kill Steve Branch, Michael Moore and Christopher Byers?
Every character in the film is significantly toned down from real life.
If you had competing historical info that would be worth listening. Personal anecdotes from someone who doesn't like someone else isn't information. I don't think you should like Seale, but your reason for thinking what you're saying is based on personal prejudice.
But you're now saying other things that indicate you think DNA evidence and general science aren't real, and that using confirmation bias is how we should try and convict people.
I'll just repeat that you sound like an idiot and move on.
This movie is Hollywood gloss on an interesting event. It's neither the most accurate nor best handling of this subject. Some performances are good. I don't understand the appeal of Eddie redmayne, and the ending is terrible in a couple different ways.
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 5:02 pm to Esquire
Pretty sure I just got through the basis of the main trial here.
Oh well
Carry on
Oh well
Carry on
Posted on 10/21/20 at 5:02 pm to Esquire
Pretty sure I just got through the basis of the main trial here.
Oh well
Carry on
Oh well
Carry on
Posted on 10/22/20 at 1:15 pm to Woolfman_8
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but Sasha’s American accent is distracting.
I thought that his accent was pretty spot-on. Hoffman was from Mass right? There were a few times when it slipped though.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 1:17 pm to Funky Tide 8
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There’s a clip of him talking. SBC probably went a little over the top making the accent a little cartoonish but he wasn’t far off the mark
ETA I found some Jerry Rubin clips and Jeremey strong is the one with the over the top accent out of anyone. Rubin sounds pretty normal outside of just being a pot head
There’s a clip of him talking. SBC probably went a little over the top making the accent a little cartoonish but he wasn’t far off the mark
ETA I found some Jerry Rubin clips and Jeremey strong is the one with the over the top accent out of anyone. Rubin sounds pretty normal outside of just being a pot head
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:39 pm to Jay Are
the first 15-30 min got me pumped, but it got boring towards the end. not a fan of the end
Posted on 10/23/20 at 1:54 am to hogcard1964
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Bingo
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This is what you came up with during your furious googling to attempt to shore up your position?
I previously stated the trial portrayal wasn't "accurate". If you were concerned about accuracy you could have read the transcript which is accurate save the missing sidebars and chambers conversations. I did and found it fascinating but it will take 100 hours of your life to read it all.
You are clearly a person that functions on an emotional level and prefers the facts related by someone with clear bias if you don't know both sides you don't know anything.
You are also clearly someone that doesn't feel like the Constitution and Bill of Rights are universal. You are likely to wave the flag and drone on about rights until the point they cut in a way that doesn't fit your narrative.
Whether Seale was good or bad, innocent or guilty he had his rights infringed and trampled on by Judge Hoffman that is factual and well documented in the official trial record. If you want to be Machiavellian that is a different conversation but arguing Seale was treated correctly and fairly in the trial is just nonsense.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 8:11 am
Posted on 10/23/20 at 6:23 am to Jay Are
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and the ending is terrible in a couple different ways.
Why does everyone hate the ending so much? What part exactly? Did I miss something?
Posted on 10/23/20 at 7:02 am to kciDAtaE
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Why does everyone hate the ending so much? What part exactly? Did I miss something?
It's one of the worst uses of the swelling, cheesy, triumphant scores that I can remember. Hayden reading the names isn't awful by itself, but Sorkin indulges his worst instincts during that scene. Cutting to the FBI agent looking sympathetic is... wtf. Continuing even at the very end to make the prosecutor a good guy is curious (there just never seemed to be a point). Playing that cheesy sports victory score while showing that Hoffman killed himself and Rubin got hit by a car is confusing emotional whiplash. I'm happy that the verdicts were overturned and I'm also happy that these guys are dead? That's certainly what the music tells me to feel. Finally, the ending hinges on Redmayne being good, and I just don't think he has it.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 7:15 am to Jay Are
I guess I didn’t watch it closely enough. None of that really bothered me. I just figured Sorkin wanted to read names to remind what the entire story of the protest was all about - the deaths in Vietnam.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 7:26 am to kciDAtaE
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just figured Sorkin wanted to read names to remind what the entire story of the protest was all about - the deaths in Vietnam.
Right. In theory, this is a good thing. And it should go without saying that my opinion is just that. If the scene worked for you, then it worked.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 7:28 am
Posted on 10/23/20 at 7:57 am to kciDAtaE
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Why does everyone hate the ending so much? What part exactly? Did I miss something?
It’s a complete shift in tone and honestly just an eye rolling appeal to emotion that they didn’t really do the work to deserve that kind of pay off
It felt like a Disney sports movie at the end.
I think you can get away with that kind of ending in 1985 but it just doesn’t work in 2020.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 12:22 pm to Jay Are
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Personal anecdotes from someone who doesn't like someone else isn't information.
What are you talking about? His Uncle's best friend is a grand master in the Klan. He knows SOOO much about Seale. Did you know that he once bedded a white woman? And your arguing that he should get a lawyer in a trial about an incident that he wasn't present for?
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 12:23 pm
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