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re: Treme Finale: Flashback Scene

Posted on 6/21/10 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 6:44 pm to
Nice to see people not hating on the show as much now. Turkey would be happy.
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
9499 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 6:53 pm to
You know what I do really like about the show, the more I think about it:

How they pick and choose what major interactions/events to show us on camera? I think this is intentional because in these events if the acting wasn't 100% spot-on, we'd be focused on that aspect and not the heaviness that comes from them.

Examples:
-Ladonna communicating about her brother's death to her mother
-Goodman's character jumping
-Toni telling their daughter about Creighton's death
-Antoine seeing the empty bed, but not the interaction where he gets the confirmation from the Doctor that his instructor is dead

The scenes they do show us like Ladonna at the morgue and Toni going through the glove box/wallet were amazing.

On a personal note, I can really relate to the struggles that Janette and Delmond were going through in the last few episodes. In June 2006, I had enough and left New Orleans for a better job. Without a doubt the hardest decision that I will ever make in my life. Every time that I go back to New Orleans to see my family now, waiting at MSY airport for the departing flight is always a pretty emotional moment for me.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41601 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 7:01 pm to
I wonder if they even focus on the same characters next season. Maybe he plans to shift the show each season with just a few repeat characters.

Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 7:29 pm to
any new ratings numbers?

i searched and didn't find any, but did find this review which sums up why i stopped watching about a month ago:

quote:

But still. I wonder if Simon and his stable of crack writers have fallen victim to the last thing I thought they would: sentimentality. Treme spent an awful lot of time revisiting this basic idea: “New Orleans is a wonderful and unique place. The people there love it. Tourists and visitors initiated into its mysteries love it. Our characters love it too. They never want to leave, and those who do leave are inevitably pulled back into its embrace. Because (did we tell you?) New Orleans is wonderful.”

This is a perfectly fine point as far as it goes. If you present it with some wry charm, great. If you use it as an entry point for a character’s individual drama, fine. But in a 10-hour season, it too often became the predominant point, and when it did the show slipped from drama into self-congratulation.

This is, interestingly, a feature of New Orleans itself – something the show obviously gets. New Orleans’s outsized self-esteem, given its many problems, is charming but dangerous: the city can be self-absorbed, dissolute, corrupt.


LINK
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41601 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 7:36 pm to
I've been picking on the show since day one but that review is a lazy pile of shite.

First off, not many people on the show spend much time talking about the city.

Yes Creighton did. But almost nobody else did. And they used Creighton to show the anger from the local populace as idiots like Rush said the government shouldn't spend a dime fixing our swamp of a city.

Yes, the last episode featured Davis trying to convince his semi gf to stay by taking her around the city, but once again that fit the context of her leaving. And in the end, she left.

I just don't see this show as a love poem to New Orleans. Not sure what it is but it is nothing close to what the guy said in that review.

There are plenty of things wrong with the show but not the things mentioned in the review.
This post was edited on 6/21/10 at 7:37 pm
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 8:19 pm to
no clue man, haven't watched in a long time.

any ratings numbers?
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41601 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 8:25 pm to
They had their best week last week after True Blood came back. Nothing great but they got a .6.

True blood got a 2.9 but at least some of those people stayed to give treme its highest ratings since episode one.

It pretty much has been stuck on .2

Here is a site with the ratings.

LINK
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 8:27 pm to
cool, thanks.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291036 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 8:34 pm to
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any ratings numbers?



you should contact all your HBO friends
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 8:36 pm to
they lie.

eta: and Treme is never really a topic of conversation.
This post was edited on 6/21/10 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81647 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:40 pm to
George Sells and Jay Grimes making a cameo was fiya
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 6:47 am to
quote:

But in a 10-hour season, it too often became the predominant point, and when it did the show slipped from drama into self-congratulation.

This is, interestingly, a feature of New Orleans itself – something the show obviously gets. New Orleans’s outsized self-esteem, given its many problems, is charming but dangerous: the city can be self-absorbed, dissolute, corrupt.


Spot on.

But I enjoyed many aspects of the show...others not so much.
Posted by zmoney2613
Eunice
Member since Jan 2008
3345 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 7:16 am to
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But, I was waiting for his wife to go identify the body, and then for her to say that it wasn't him.

When they didn't even do a body identification scene (like they did for Day-Mo),


But that is a whole different thing. Day-mo was lost in jail and no one could find him, that was the story and they followed it all the way throughout. Creighton's death was completely different. I kinda knew it was coming; after he finishes eating like a glutton, and then going do all the New Orleans type things, I had a feeling it was coming.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 7:43 am to
quote:

that review is a lazy pile of shite.
Posted by CreoleAubie
NC
Member since Sep 2008
2910 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Examples:
-Ladonna communicating about her brother's death to her mother
-Goodman's character jumping
-Toni telling their daughter about Creighton's death
-Antoine seeing the empty bed, but not the interaction where he gets the confirmation from the Doctor that his instructor is dead

The scenes they do show us like Ladonna at the morgue and Toni going through the glove box/wallet were amazing.




These are good points. I thought Toni was SO real in how she portrayed her emotions over the last 2 episodes.

For me, the best line from Treme this season from the 2nd to last episode was this (being born and raised there, this just sounded SO spot on for the moment):

"Just pick up the money, Ledonna - stop talking shite. You need to bury yo damn brother."

Hated the twist with John Goodman, although I guess he was too big of a star to be a regular for next season.

And finally, I HATE the whole plot line with Annie and her greaseball boyfriend......not sure what that adds to the show. Her furrowed brow makes me nauseous anymore.

Totally agree about David Morse too He is so strong.
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