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re: Tom Holland isn’t a fan of Hollywood

Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:58 am to
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:58 am to
Zendaya's character is named Michelle Jones. She is not Mary Jane Watson.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:14 am to
She’s referred to as MJ, as Mary Jane has been for decades. Michelle Jones wasn’t mentioned until the third movie, “no way home”
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:26 am to
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Probably seen shite out in Pedowood that'll keep you up at night.


I think it's pretty much expected that an actor will have to play LGBT at some point now or risk being ostracized. Holland did it for at least one project and it included some graphic scenes of him taking it from behind.

I'd rather be poor than subject myself to that humiliation ritual.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:29 am to
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She’s referred to as MJ, as Mary Jane has been for decades. Michelle Jones wasn’t mentioned until the third movie, “no way home”

She's been named Michelle since Homecoming.
Posted by barbapapa
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:06 am to
think Tom just wants to chill and play golf
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:10 am to
Michelle Jones wasn’t mentioned until the third movie, “no way home”
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:23 am to
Just reading the tea leaves, I think he and Zendaya won’t be seen for awhile after this year. They’ve both stated publicly they want to take a break for awhile and maybe have a couple kids.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 9:24 am
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:24 am to
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I think it's pretty much expected that an actor will have to play LGBT at some point now or risk being ostracized. Holland did it for at least one project and it included some graphic scenes of him taking it from behind.


A lot of this starting to come out. I have friends that were in the music industry out there and outright said the gays are the gatekeepers. Want move up the ladder then you will need to do some gay shite
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:41 am to
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Michelle Jones wasn’t mentioned until the third movie, “no way home”

Her character is listed as Michelle in the credits of Homecoming.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:14 am to
You one of those on the spectrum folk who can't process that what is being discussed here is that IN THE MOVIE, * she was never called or referred to as 'Michelle Jones'?

Do you get that? As a part of the IN STORY narrative, all we heard or saw about this character was that she was identified as "MJ".



* Called 'Michelle' at the very end of Homecoming. Noted.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 11:04 am
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:19 am to
Easy to say after you made millions from it.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30264 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:39 am to
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You one of those on the spectrum folk who can't process that what is being discussed here is that IN THE MOVIE, she was never called or referred to as 'Michelle Jones'?

Do you get that? As a part of the IN STORY narrative, all we heard or saw about this character was that she was identified as "MJ".

She's a different character, you putz, she's been called Michelle since Homecoming, and MJ is an admitted homage to the Mary Jane character. No one gives a shite about you bitching about "they never called her Michelle Jones." So what, retard.
Posted by P-Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:47 am to
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You one of those on the spectrum folk who can't process that what is being discussed here is that IN THE MOVIE, she was never called or referred to as 'Michelle Jones'?


This is literally the end of Homecoming... their teacher calls her Michelle... IN THE MOVIE.



Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47189 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:57 am to
It's 'almost' like you're choosing to be stubborn and not read what I post so as to keep arguing.

Weird.

They went out of their way to NOT call her Michelle Jones in the movies not as an 'homage' but instead as an intentional dig at fans. It's called subverting expectations, and it's what modern Hollywood has become addicted to in the past 10 years. Whether you want to admit it or not.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:00 am to
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literally the end of Homecoming



OK.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30264 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:05 am to
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It's 'almost' like you're choosing to be stubborn and not read what I post so as to keep arguing.

Weird.

They went out of their way to NOT call her Michelle Jones in the movies not as an 'homage' but instead as an intentional dig at fans. It's called subverting expectations, and it's what modern Hollywood has become addicted to in the past 10 years. Whether you want to admit it or not.

How is it a dig at fans? If you're bothered by her character, that's your problem, not mine or anyone else.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:13 am to
Well, she's not "MJ" that's been canonically a part of the entire Spider-Man story.

And there is no Mary Jane Watson character to be found in the Holland movies.

So it's not a ME issue with her or her character, but anyone who knows anything about Spider-Man.

Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30264 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:31 am to
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Well, she's not "MJ" that's been canonically a part of the entire Spider-Man story.

So what? If they did make her character the canonical MJ, you would cry about it.

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And there is no Mary Jane Watson character to be found in the Holland movies.

So what?

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So it's not a ME issue with her or her character, but anyone who knows anything about Spider-Man.

It is your problem.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
20008 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:44 am to
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when I imagine all the places she has shot at and possibly could afford to live, Fayetteville Georgia doesn’t seem to be a place that would be tops on that list.
reminds me of what Morgan Freeman said about living in Charleston MS

“People say to me all the time, ‘you could live anywhere you want, why do you live in Mississippi?’ and I say “Because I can live anywhere I want.’”
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 11:46 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477178 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:47 am to
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If you're bothered by her character, that's your problem


He's a social justice warrior.

Not shocking to watch him get owned yet again after he virtue signals
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 11:48 am
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