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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S06E08 “Point and Shoot”

Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:46 pm to
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Thought the way Lalo got taken out was kinda lame, but otherwise really good episode.



it was predictable that he was going to die down there...but it was the strategy in how it played out is why it was epic.

lalo playing 5D chess only to be outgunned by gus going 6D. it was a back and forth of oh shite lalo meant to let kim go so gus would know to respond, but gus had already planned for that event.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:49 pm to
Kim doesn't necessarily have to die, could just mean her exit from the series if we're exploring possibilities
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:03 pm to
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Kim doesn't necessarily have to die, could just mean her exit from the series if we're exploring possibilities



Going out a door plays into that. But from season 5.... ehhh

Has it ever been said just what part Burnette is playing? I could see her as Kim's elderly mother.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:11 pm to
Couldn't help but chime in here.

If Gus wants Kim dead he would also want Saul dead. He heard every bit of info Kim did, only difference is he didn't see the imposter.

It makes zero sense that Gus would order Kim dead, but allow Saul to go free. Especially when he knows Kim is now going to tell him any detail he didn’t know.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8173 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:13 pm to
Plus she would have never left his house alive if his intention was to kill her.

There is zero reason to vacuum her at this point.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 10:21 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:22 pm to
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Couldn't help but chime in here.



Oh, we know.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8173 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:25 pm to
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Oh, we know.





So is my point valid or not?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:26 pm to
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If Gus wants Kim dead he would also want Saul dead. He heard every bit of info Kim did, only difference is he didn't see the imposter.

It makes zero sense that Gus would order Kim dead, but allow Saul to go free. Especially when he knows Kim is now going to tell him any detail he didn’t know.



lets keep some humility in these threads.
so without getting further into kim theory, I actually mostly agree with you on this.

and there is 0 chance mike would not revolt against gus at this point if gus ordered a hit on kim. he just lost nacho like less than a month ago maybe. some of his men died guarding gus, and he's (partially) to blame for howard's death and the trauma to kim because that would all be avoided if he held to his word about watching their back. mike would not allow his own failure be the reason gus kills (or tries to kill) kim.

Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8173 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:30 pm to
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lets keep some humility in these threads.
so without getting further into kim theory, I actually mostly agree with you on this.



Agree, Gus has no issue with Kim at this point unless she starts coming for him. I don't see that happening.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8173 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:44 pm to
"Mrs. Goodman" x2

"She's really clever"



Lalo
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49476 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:52 pm to
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and he's (partially) to blame for howard's death and the trauma to kim because that would all be avoided if he held to his word about watching their back. 
could they both be paid very well for their troubles?
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19625 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 6:37 am to
Lots of parallels between Gus Fring killing Lalo Salamanca and Walter White killing Mike Ehrmantraut.

Gus and Walter killed men who were their physical superiors and much better with weaponry. Gus and Walter were extremely lucky to come out on top. Their brains and not their physical acumen in a gunfight were their best assets.

But hey, it’s believable. Before things crashed for them, Gus and Walter had the luck of the devil. So them disposing of Lalo and Mike is believable within the canon of the BB universe.

This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 6:39 am
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19625 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 6:45 am to
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He doesn’t have that in BB. So I’m not sure Jimmy ever really truly “becomes” Saul. Like I said, it’s a character, a costume or mask he puts on every day. But he’s still Jimmy underneath.


Yep. “Saul Goodman” is definitely a costume. He did not flush nor did he hide who he really was. One of the first things Saul tells Walter White in that first meeting is “My real name’s McGill.”
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89482 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:02 am to
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Couldn't help but chime in here.


LINK

quote:

about to go bed probably won't post again until next week.


you literally only made it one full day after episode airing before you posted again. You yearn for the attention so bad it's sad.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 7:40 am to
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Something that I had forgotten about; Howard told his wife if anything bad happens to him it's because of Jimmy. Didn't he also say he wasn't suicidal to her?


I think that will be a non-factor & if it does come up, the story Mike told Jimmy/Kim to use should be enough to defend any blame. His breakdown at HHM was public enough that people will believe that he has a drug problem. During his breakdown, I believe Howard already said to Cliff that "Jimmy did this" and it wasn't believable.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15604 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:17 am to
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My guess is that Mike will tell Kim that Gus wants her dead to trim a loose end. Mike will advise her to get the hell out of there before it's too late.

I’m in camp Kim gets vacuumed. I think that’s the purpose of the Gene timeline. It’s about Kim and Jimmy reuniting. But I don’t think Mike knows about the vacuum cleaner guy.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12786 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:23 am to
If she does get vacuumed, she going to have to use the sandpiper money to get there. It was a pretty expensive thing.
Posted by pmacneworleans
Member since Dec 2013
2157 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:25 am to
I rewatched the beginning of the 1st episode for this season - when the movers (presumably at the direction of the feds, and after the end of BB) were clearing out Saul's house/mansion. The only item that they show which would belong to a woman is a pair of bikini bottoms that were draped over the faucet in the tub. There were no visible female items anywhere else - both sides of the double vanity had nothing but male prodducts, and there were no female items of clothing in the huge walk in closet. So, whatever happens to Kim, it appears she was not living with Saul during the BB era.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:40 am to
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I’m in camp Kim gets vacuumed. I think that’s the purpose of the Gene timeline. It’s about Kim and Jimmy reuniting. But I don’t think Mike knows about the vacuum cleaner guy.


Agreed, but they have both been involved with the vet who has the contact info for vacuum service in his little black book. I think they get the information from him.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89482 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:49 am to
I don't know if I think kim will or won't be vacuumed but how would her end gene end up meeting? It'd have to be becuase they've comunicated after BB time and arranged a meetup, becuase there's no way the vacuum guy as meticulous as he is would send 2 people to the same place so close together, especially not when kim is from the area
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