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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S06E03 “Rock and Hard Place” Thread

Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by musick
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:28 pm to
I thought you were going to end up at the blue meth is nacho zombie ash flower originated and that's why it's special
Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:29 pm to
Kim's not going to die unless it happens in Gene's timeline, and I find that unlikely.
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:33 pm to
Gene/Kim is almost inevitable, but this is the BB universe. Do you think Vince gives Saul a happily ever after send off as the ultimate conclusion to Breaking Bad?

Maybe...

What if Walt turns up (I mean Jessie and Walt are basically shoe-ins this season) but it's in the Gene scenes? (this is still a remote possibility, I highly doubt it, just spitballing. )
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:36 pm to
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Kim's not going to die unless it happens in Gene's timeline, and I find that unlikely.



still dont think shes getting killed off, but im not sure kims death is as off the table as i did initially. theres an awfully big time span left between bcs and bb events.

i originally discounted it because i thought it would have been much shorter timeline and probably impacted saul or been brought up but with about 4 years gap, its not that much of a stretch to go unseen.

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Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:43 pm to
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i originally discounted it because i thought it would have been much shorter timeline and probably impacted saul or been brought up but with about 4 years gap, its not that much of a stretch to go unseen.


And remember, if this timeline is right and it's 2004-05, this season has those few buffer years they could theoretically jump around in time from (as well as going into the future) tons of potential with the way its all set up.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:43 pm to
I honestly don't know how they'll make up 4 years in the rest of this season.
Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:45 pm to
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Do you think Vince gives Saul a happily ever after 


Doubtful, but I don't have a clue what's going to happen during Gene's timeline.

Posted by musick
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:46 pm to
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I honestly don't know how they'll make up 4 years in the rest of this season.


Time jumps, hell time see-saws. I could see them jumping between 3 different timelines at the very end.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:11 pm to
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Time jumps, hell time see-saws. I could see them jumping between 3 different timelines at the very end.


No doubt they'll make it work somehow.
Posted by metallica81788
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:17 pm to
They jumped forward quite a bit at the end of BB so I wouldn't be surprised for BCS to the do the same and tie it all together.
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:20 pm to
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I thought you were going to end up at the blue meth is nacho zombie ash flower originated and that's why it's special


The tequila was blue and Jane was wearing blue when she died too!


Kim is going to die!
Posted by LSU Wayne
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:21 pm to
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I'm not really feeling the try and destroy Howard storyline either


Something tells me Howard will outsmart them and end up fricking up Kim’s career and future somehow rather than his being destroyed. And that will cause Jimmy to fully embrace the Saul persona
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:24 pm to
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Something tells me Howard will outsmart them and end up fricking up Kim’s career and future somehow rather than his being destroyed. And that will cause Jimmy to fully embrace the Saul persona



Makes sense and would explain her absence during BB.

They have to come up with a reason for her to go away before the end of the season.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:25 pm to
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I honestly don't know how they'll make up 4 years in the rest of this season.



I dont think they will nor do they need to. the jimmy+kim vs howard will be resolved within months of the timeline. this is plenty of time for saul to establish his practice.

we dont need 3 years of saul lawerying from the office, bc we know he does it. this show wasnt ever really about that. it was to set him up for BB and his fate after. a time jump is going to happen, and its going to be ok.
Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:33 pm to
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They have to come up with a reason for her to go away before the end of the season.


No they don't.

By this logic, every person Jimmy has interacted with that isn't seen in BB has to have a reason.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:47 pm to
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Episode title also probably references Kim's "rat or friend of the cartel" dilemma for Saul.


I just noticed that the key FOB in the episode artwork actually has a rat on the red button that is usually to open the trunk. I think that confirms that there are several characters that are between a rock and a hard place.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:51 pm to
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Makes sense and would explain her absence during BB.

They have to come up with a reason for her to go away before the end of the season.

yea theres plenty of things that can blowback to kim.

kevin being pissed at jimmy in the club makes him reconsider if she was intentionally tanking mesa verde.

now she is getting involved in the jimmy vs DA about lalo conspiracy. there would be a record of her jail visit to lalo. perhaps she gets caught lying to defend jimmy regarding that investigation. Or it becomes a basis for the DA deciding she is the one who conspired with lalo. jimmy could still be plausibly unaware. these options could just involve jimmy flipping or remaining silent to preserve himself. (the DA even said if he came clean they would not punish him, he could do something that ends up getting kim thrown under the bus while keeping his license)

she could get caught doing something in the howard war that blows back on her. jimmy could waffle at some point in the plan while she presses onward. she could take the blame for all of it. or Jimmy could flip for self preservation. this seems like the most probable and compelling route, but could include the following caveat:
if kim has a middle name and did not list it on the marriage documents, the marriage would be null and the spousal privilege would not apply. which would be the spiciest possible route, making jimmy fully embrace saul in a face off with kimmy. it would be frankensteins monster killing dr frankenstein.

then theres other ways like she decides to just split in the middle of the night like she has done throughout her life. it could be to protect jimmy from the above blowback possibilities or could be lalo related threats or another reason.

Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:51 pm to
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By this logic, every person Jimmy has interacted with that isn't seen in BB has to have a reason.


It might be a little different than that.. I mean Kim is his wife. Not just someone he interacts with... right?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:54 pm to
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yea theres plenty of things that can blowback to kim.

kevin being pissed at jimmy in the club makes him reconsider if she was intentionally tanking mesa verde.

now she is getting involved in the jimmy vs DA about lalo conspiracy. there would be a record of her jail visit to lalo. perhaps she gets caught lying to defend jimmy regarding that investigation. Or it becomes a basis for the DA deciding she is the one who conspired with lalo. jimmy could still be plausibly unaware. these options could just involve jimmy flipping or remaining silent to preserve himself. (the DA even said if he came clean they would not punish him, he could do something that ends up getting kim thrown under the bus while keeping his license)

she could get caught doing something in the howard war that blows back on her. jimmy could waffle at some point in the plan while she presses onward. she could take the blame for all of it. or Jimmy could flip for self preservation. this seems like the most probable and compelling route, but could include the following caveat:
if kim has a middle name and did not list it on the marriage documents, the marriage would be null and the spousal privilege would not apply. which would be the spiciest possible route, making jimmy fully embrace saul in a face off with kimmy. it would be frankensteins monster killing dr frankenstein.

then theres other ways like she decides to just split in the middle of the night like she has done throughout her life. it could be to protect jimmy from the above blowback possibilities or could be lalo related threats or another reason.


You should be a writer on this show lol.. All plausible possibilities.
Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:56 pm to
We really don't see anything about Saul in BB other than what he shows Walt and Jesse. The entire rest of his life is a complete unknown.
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