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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S05E10 FINALE "Something Unforgivable" Thread

Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:52 pm to
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Here's the deal. I know I can be overbearing about Kim's fate. The overbearing part is a chicken egg situation.

Have you ever felt like you were 100% right about something and treated with disrespect for it? It's similar to telling the truth and being accused of telling a lie. I have been dealing with it since the early part of season 2. It makes me crazy

I'm perfectly capable of having a civil discussion about it, but the problem I have is that I'm by myself arguing against an army that are dismissive and use terms like batshit, moron, and whatever else they feel like typing. The most disrespectful are usually the ones that don't understand this show at all.

I can discuss it in a civil way even if you disagree, but it's the dismissive ridicule that gets me going.

I don't have the type of personality to back down when I know that I am right, and my a-hole type posts are sort of a frick you to the overwhelming responses I know I will receive.

That being said, if you want to disagree, cool let's talk about it. You want to dismiss I will bookmark you for later.


Here's the deal: YOU want to be an a-hole. You don't want anyone being an a-hole to you. We get it.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22802 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:06 pm to
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I really like Nacho, but dammit if I’m not on team Lalo. He’s just too damn charismatic and such a bad arse!

I’m pulling for Lalo after this last episode too. Was hoping he would go down but now glad he’s alive.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6974 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:58 pm to
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Have you ever felt like you were 100% right about something and treated with disrespect for it? It's similar to telling the truth and being accused of telling a lie. I have been dealing with it since the early part of season 2. It makes me crazy



Dude, if you get this worked up about whether or not people on a message board “respect” your theory, I’m not sure what to say. And the really sad, or funny, part of it is that even if you are right, no one is really going to give a shite. Because at the end of the day it’s just a TV show. This is like one of 5 show threads that I follow and I give zero thought to any of them until I click on this board and remember that they are there.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28496 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:34 pm to
When is the finale?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:39 pm to
S5 finale was Monday.
S6 finale will be in like 2 years
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7899 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:11 pm to
I double downvote all of Ham’s posts without reading them, and upvote every post where people call out his bullshite.




Posted by The Dozer
H-Town
Member since Feb 2017
5632 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:50 pm to
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Yea, the whole Lalo plotline in BCS was born out of what i assume was a throw-away line in BB. And what an awesome character we got out of it. Simply awesome.


If that’s a throwaway line it’s a helluva good one. It references Lalo AND Ignacio in the line: “No no it wasn’t me it was Ignacio” or something along those lines. It’s cooler to think was planned all along.
Posted by Gpfather
Member since Jan 2019
485 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:58 pm to
5 Q’s About BCS

quote:

”I’m embarrassed to admit this now,” Gilligan says, “but back in Season One or Two, when I was more active on the show, Peter kept saying, ‘We’ve gotta answer who Lalo is,’ and I finally said, ‘I don’t know that we need to answer every single question.’ And, man, I was wrong. If Peter hadn’t pushed, we wouldn’t have Tony Dalton.
Posted by The Dozer
H-Town
Member since Feb 2017
5632 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:02 pm to
Well shite. They did a helluva good job tying it in then.
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11937 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:08 pm to
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Gilligan says, “but back in Season One or Two, when I was more active on the show,


Ahhhh so that's where the quality went
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8248 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:08 am to
Okay, I've given you 24 hours or so to get the sand out of your vaginas. I did a second watch looking for info. Not much there but a couple things stood out.

Lalo is 100% on to Nacho. That was pretty obvious considering the circumstances.

If you watch again, pay attention when he makes the lead assassin make the phone call. As soon as the phone starts ringing Lalo gives a death stare to the decanter Nacho brought out.

Only two subtle things with the Kim situation. The first was some very sad music as she was looking in the pro bono file room. Second was the Royals T shirt that keeps getting shoved down our throats.

I went back to see if the sad music matched when Kim looked at the Mesa Verde models in "Something Beautiful." I also checked "Lantern", when Chuck goes nuts. The music was different but similar in all 3 episodes.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 1:57 pm
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 6:50 am to
My theory on Kim is they quickly realized in the first two seasons of BCS that she was a ratings magnet, so she is going to be there until the end. She may die in the final season, don't know, but if she does, she'll be in flashbacks heavily, or dreams, of Jimmy.

She's gold to the project. Not sure if they realized her ratings power at the onset, but I can't see her going anywhere, she's written in until the end.

In other words, she's gold.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 9:35 am to
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Only two subtle things with the Kim situation. The first was some very sad music as she was looking in the pro bono file room. Second was the Royals T shirt that keeps getting shoved down our throats


Sad music and the royals references could just be hints that jimmy misses kim. Vince doesnt do these types of things for no reason. J-K=S confirmed.


Teasing aside...yea Lalo is 100% onto nacho. Everyone dead except nacho missing + the glasses/decanter scene. But at this point Nacho doesnt know Lalo is still alive, and coming for him.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4703 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:19 am to
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Okay, I've given you 24 hours or so to get the sand out of your vaginas


Always a good way to start a dialogue.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7899 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Only two subtle things with the Kim situation. The first was some very sad music as she was looking in the pro bono file room. Second was the Royals T shirt that keeps getting shoved down our throats.



This season was set around 2002. The 2002 KC Royals went 62-100. She dead. See I can do it too.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24837 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 11:47 am to
You’re WAY too invested in this

Every season you get deeper and deeper
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 9:06 pm to
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Entertainment Weekly about the couple, with the former stating that he thinks they could reunite after the events of the original series.

"I think I agree with most people that while it could be possible for them to be together in that Breaking Bad era," he said. "I doubt it. I just hope she doesn't die and I hope there's some kind of reconnection that they do after it's all done, when he’s Gene (Takavic)."




So as opposed to Ham I've been saying since the beginning that Saul as Gene goes and tries to find Kim after she's not there at all in the BB timeline for whatever reason.

Time will tell but it's been my gut since the first season, and first Gene scene, literally everything he does touches on his past and his current loneliness

It gives Gene a purpose, he's lonely, etc quite obviously and wants that companionship they have in BCS, but not BB
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 9:14 pm
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
14183 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 9:18 pm to
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So as opposed to Ham I've been saying since the beginning that Saul as Gene goes and tries to find Kim after she's not there at all in the BB timeline for whatever reason.

Time will tell but it's been my gut since the first season, and first Gene scene, literally everything he does touches on his past and his current loneliness

It gives Gene a purpose, he's lonely, etc quite obviously and wants that companionship they have in BCS, but not BB



It’s really gotta be this. Otherwise there would be no real reason to keep teasing the Gene stuff every season
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7899 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 9:22 pm to
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So as opposed to Ham I've been saying since the beginning that Saul as Gene goes and tries to find Kim after she's not there at all in the BB timeline for whatever reason.


I’m cool with this. I don’t care if she’s a Wal-Mart Door Greeter in Kalamazoo, so long as Ham is wrong.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8248 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 9:23 pm to
Screen Rant and Rolling Stone both did a Q&A with Gould. Busy now so I can't give an exact quote or link, but I can find later.

Paraphrasing Gould.

Maybe this show is about Kim Breaking Bad.


What if Kim is really Saul Goodman?

I will add that I never trust what these guys say in interviews. The last thing they would want to do is spoil the show in a q&a with a blogger.
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