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re: TLJ is worse than the prequels

Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

The movie is worse than any of the prequels could ever dream of being.


True statement.

We may have disagreed with the direction of the plot of the prequels but at least they were coherent and competent and didn't go out of their way to disrespect each character.

TLJ is a just big and bumbling giant mess of SJW bullshite that fricked the spirit of Star Wars in the arse with a giant BBC and made Luke Skywalker watch and then made him disintegrate away like a chickenshit coward.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:35 pm to
They should just put that movie out of its misery
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:36 pm to
Yes.

It is.

By a country mile.
Posted by cigsmcgee
LR
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:39 pm to
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AOTC didn’t take an aids infested shite all over the franchise.




the movie literally changed the rules on what stormtroopers were and ruined Boba Fett in the process.

and thats just off the top of my head without having seen it in years.

i think if you TLJ-hating millennials stepped out of the group think for a minute, youd see that maybe it isnt as bad as you think. and maybe take off the nostalgia goggles and see the Prequels for the putrid turds they really are.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3182 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:40 pm to
So glad I have never seen TLJ (at the advice of this forum).
Posted by Tigers2010
Member since Nov 2008
8805 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

youd see that maybe it isnt as bad as you think


No it really is, its fricking terrible
Posted by Tigers2010
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:42 pm to
Don't ever see it
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
6667 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:51 pm to
I hate to agree with the OP but he's correct. AOTC at least has some awesome scenes with Kenobi.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28361 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:30 pm to
Couldn't agree more. I watched the first time expecting the worst and so liked it well enough.

But on rewatch, what in the frog haired frick is going on here? Why is what is happening happening?
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:38 pm to
I thought TLJ was pretty entertaining. It was dumb and senseless and didn’t fit with TFA, but by itself it was entertaining.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20768 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:22 pm to
It’s been a month since I last saw TLJ and I’m still pissed about what they did to Luke Skywalker.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15761 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:33 pm to
I killed 5 children after watching TLJ.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:49 pm to
Because of the reaction on here and across the internet, TLJ was the first Star Wars film that I didn't watch in the theaters since I was old enough to watch them (stating the The Phantom Menace). It was a tradition to go with my brother, and I just couldn't get myself to do it.

I finally got around to watching it a month ago, and I went in expecting it to be an Uwe Boll level bad all around, or since so many said it ruled the whole brand even their childhood, I was expecting something so exteme that it basically changed how one could view the previous movies (like Luke becoming Vader or finding out he's not even his son).

I went in expecting the worst, but since I refused to read these threads, I was expecting it to be a surprise and feel it just like the rest of you.

But after I watched it, I was surprised, but I was surprised because I couldn't figure out what it was. Since it wasn't Uwe Boll and just flat out poorly made, I figured I just have just missed a part of the movie. So I figured a Google search would clear that up. And while there were tons of articles about the backlash, none of them pinpointed it the reason, and even those critical of the film seemed confused as to go why the backlash was so severe.

So I wanted to comment in these threads and ask, but the posts (like this thread) were filled with so much universal anger as such a matter of fact, that I didn't want to ask stupid question as to why to a bunch angry people and I was sure EVENTUALLY someone would point it out.

But since it's bad the same old outraged post after another, and still just a matter of fact, I'm beginning to think this is some group-think, mass hysteria with a bunch of grown men acting like teenage girls reinforcing each other's increasingly irrational takes.

I know this will be down voted, but I picture you all like the lady screaming at the sky during Trump's inauguration, made more ridiculous by the fact that it's a movie.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

Vader is a pathetic pussy, according to George Lucas in the prequels.


Luke is a pathetic pussy, according to Rian Johnson
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:06 am to
What specific questions do you have for why it is bad?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:06 am to
What made TLJ bad had been detailed point by point on here. WTF are you talking bout?

1) Luke spends 3 movies turning his Dad from dark to light. Refusing to accept that his choice and path were permanent. But the moment his nephew shows an inkling? Bail on him. . .gotta murder the frick out of him. . .can't be saved

2) Leia has never trained in the force at all, but can suddenly survive the ravages of space and frickING FLY!!!! Powers that nobody has ever displayed ever ever ever. Mace Windu would have loved that feature as he fell to his death.

3) Insufferable Purple haired chick just slapping people with her dick because feminism?

4) Finn and Rose's story exists just to slap us in the face with misogyny=bad

5) Poe was the Han of TFA. Now he is just a neutered little bitch boy. . .because #MeToo or whatever

6) All that to save some space horses? Who the frick cares? And why leave the child fricking slaves? Horses>>>Children I guess?

7) Snoke!!!! Finally the big bad is revealed, and then he is dead in the time it took you to read this sentence.


There are 7 reasons that are pretty universally agreed on. . .and I could probably come up with many more.

It was a bad Star Wars movie. It shite on iconic characters and canon. When JJ killed Han, fans allowed it because he was acting consistent with his character.

When he died, he died being Han Solo.

I just wanted to provide you with some of what you said did not exist anywhere on the internet
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
6667 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:17 am to
There are MANY vids on youtube that explain the problems with TLJ.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:19 am to
I am just making sure he can't hide from it.

I gotta give him kudos. He didn't buy a ticket, so he is part of the solution . . .even if he regrets it now.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7729 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:19 am to
buckeye vol

Are you really telling me you can't figure out what's wrong with TLJ? If so you don't belong on the movie board. Let me just give a few examples. If you're still confused after that let me know and I will give you more.

1. We have waited 30 years to see how Luke has progressed as a Jedi and we find out he turned out to be a whiney little bitch that sits on a rock while his friends are in a battle.

2. Han is dead. Luke is Dead. The only person still alive is god damn Merry Poppins Leia who is actually fricking dead in real life.

3. Finn and and the token Asian whose name I don't even remember took up 1 fricking 3rd of the movie on a completely pointless subplot considering whatever the frick they were doing wasn't part of the true plan.

4. Poe started a damn mutiny just to make a point that men are toxic and sometimes women are smarter. After the mutiny is squashed the super smart lady claims she really likes that guy. WTF.

5. Snoke, if there is only supposed to be one master and one apprentice where the hell did Snoke come from once Vader and the Emporer died? Especially considering he should have been alive during that time period.

They broke the rules of Star Wars here which is okay if the writers come up with an interesting reason for the rules to be broken, but nope. They just killed him with zero explanation of how he came to be.

6. Rey, fricking Mary Sue. This bitch hasn't had five minutes of Jedi training, but that doesn't stop her from saving the day anytime the writers get to lazy to do their jobs.

7. fricking Hux. Compare him to Tarkin. Tarkin was a bad arse enemy. Smart competent. You know a real challenge for the heros to try and beat. Hux is nothing but an incompetent pissant. Our "heros" could simply give him a wedgie and he would be defeated.

8. God-damned Yoda lightning. Not even saying anything else about that bullshite.


If you need more let me know.

This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 12:32 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72103 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:19 am to
There are answers everywhere.

You can find answers on this board if you look for the original threads.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 12:22 am
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