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re: THR: Paapa Essiedu has been offered to play Severus Snape in HBO's Harry Potter adaptation
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:07 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:07 am to OMLandshark
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Seriously, if they cast the actress who played Brienne of Tarth as Umbridge, he’d still defend it and ask what do we have against tall women and that we must feel threatened by a woman who is taller and stronger than most men.
No, he'd hate it because Gwendoline Christie is white and like all SJWs he believes whitness is bad. Also like all SJWs all source material must be changed to match progressive ideals.
ETA: If we are going to change source material I hope that Rowling casts a trans man as Umbridge as an FU to those who want that sort of thing.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 9:08 am
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:09 am to MasonTiger
Don't matter who brings the milk, it's still milk.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:09 am to MFn GIMP
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Seriously, if they cast the actress who played Brienne of Tarth as Umbridge, he’d still defend it and ask what do we have against tall women and that we must feel threatened by a woman who is taller and stronger than most men.
No, he'd hate it because Gwendoline Christie is white and like all SJWs he believes whitness is bad.
well you guys are very wrong on this. I challenge you to go through my 10k posts and find where I ever complained about a white person being cast.
you guys are living in a fantasy world where culture war trumps all.
It's childish, who cares who they cast for the roles in the show, it is an adaptation. As I pointed out, they already changed 1,000 things when they adapted the books into the movies, one more change isn't gonna make or break it. It's an "ADAPTATION", not a retelling.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 9:12 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:12 am to Thracken13
quote:This isn’t some side character who has no description,
if he is the right guy for the role
This is on par with casting Ron as black or making the Weasley family black.
The characters were written a certain way and have clearly defined characteristics.
Only racists, like Corinthians, support changing characters solely based on race, rather than staying true to how the story was actually written.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:16 am to Scruffy
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Only racists, like Corinthians, support changing characters solely based on race, rather than staying true to how the story was actually written.
where did they announce they are changing this only for race?
Did you talk to casting and they said this? It wasn't because they saw him in his other roles that they wanted him?
the dude seems to be a very accomplished theatre actor? that has nothing to do with him getting the role? your focus on race trumps all other factors.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 9:20 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:17 am to Scruffy
wait = are you saying I am racist?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:19 am to Thracken13
they only see race, so if they changed a character to a black actor, to them the reason has to be because of race. somehow that makes us racist? 
logic isn't their strong suit
logic isn't their strong suit
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:49 am to Thracken13
quote:If you support changing a well established character with documented characteristics of “greasy haired, pale white man” to a different race, yes, I would make that claim.
wait = are you saying I am racist?
If it was a character that had no defined characteristics and could be any race, no, I would not make that claim.
Hermione could be black.
Weasleys can’t. Changing the Weasleys would fit my previous statement.
I don’t support the arbitrary changing of a characters race, especially a well-defined character.
Same reason I opposed Scarlett Johansson in Ghost in a Shell. Major Kusanagi is Asian.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 9:54 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:53 am to Corinthians420
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the dude seems to be a very accomplished theatre actor?
Are there no other accomplished theater actors that meet Snape's actual description?
None? Zero?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:53 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Apparently, there isn’t a single one out there.
Are there no other accomplished theater actors that meet Snape's actual description?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:59 am to Fun Bunch
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Are there no other accomplished theater actors that meet Snape's actual description?
None? Zero?
why does this matter?
All that matters is who the people in casting want. Us thinking there are people that fit the book description better literally doesn't matter at all.
HBO likes to reuse actors, this guy is already in a different HBO show and they like him. Maybe he'll take the role, maybe he won't. If he does, it will be the third Snape and the 2nd Snape adaptation. We'll see how it goes.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:02 am to Crimson K
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It’s perfect. The hooked nose, sallow skin, and greasy long hair. Just as I imagined him.
Lololololololol
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:04 am to Corinthians420
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why does this matter?
Why would it not matter?
This is an adaptation of a very famous work. There are drawings of snape that are official. He is described in heavy detail and his description is a part of his personality. His "Sallow" skin is used repeatedly and is part of him.
If you have multiple actors that are of similar quality, why would you go out of your way to pick one that is in every conceivable way different than the way the character is exhaustingly portrayed?
There is only one reason, and that is political.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:04 am to StrongOffer
quote:Dude, that's already canon.
Dumbledore will be gay
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:06 am to Fun Bunch
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If you have multiple actors that are of similar quality, why would you go out of your way to pick one that is in every conceivable way different than the way the character is exhaustingly portrayed?
it worked well with the Corlys Velaryon actor in HOTD. That should be enough to show you physical characteristics do not make a character
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:08 am to Corinthians420
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it worked well with the Corlys Velaryon actor in HOTD. That should be enough to show you physical characteristics do not make a character
It worked in HOTD because it eased confusion. It is hard enough for non book readers to keep up with all the Targaryens. Then, you throw in another family that looks the same, and people would be ultra confused.
Also, it made the whole scandal of the Velaryon kids actually being Strongs much more obvious.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 10:12 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:12 am to DestrehanTiger
that's a good point, but it still showed that completely altering physical appearance did not damage the character.
It also wouldn't damage snape if the guy plays the character well.
It also wouldn't damage snape if the guy plays the character well.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:13 am to Fun Bunch
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If you have multiple actors that are of similar quality, why would you go out of your way to pick one that is in every conceivable way different than the way the character is exhaustingly portrayed?
Reminds me of what they did to The Gunslinger movie
The Gunslinger was basically a young Clint Eastwood type in the books, who had an interracial relationship that was written perfectly.
Plot twist: Hollywood made him black and threw out the relationship
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:19 am to Corinthians420
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it worked well with the Corlys Velaryon actor in HOTD. That should be enough to show you physical characteristics do not make a character
First of all, pretty much no one knew who the frick Corlys Valeryon was, so almost no one cares. Its not even from the "main books".
And, the decision to do that was indeed political. HBO was repeatedly accused of not having enough diversity on GOT.
Severus Snape is completely different in every conceivable way as a character to Corlys Valeryon
It would be like if they wanted to make Madame Pomfrey black. No one would give a frick
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:22 am to YumYum Sauce
You could clone Clint Eastwood for that movie and it would still be arse. They tried to take parts from all 7 books to tell the complete story in 90 minutes. I did like the MM casting as the Man in Black though.
Mike Flanagan is working on a Dark Tower series for Amazon. After his work on his horror shows for Netflix and knocking Doctor Sleep out of the park, I’m optimistic it will be good. I doubt many on this board will complain if they veer from the source material and not cast Stephen King to play himself in the later seasons.
Mike Flanagan is working on a Dark Tower series for Amazon. After his work on his horror shows for Netflix and knocking Doctor Sleep out of the park, I’m optimistic it will be good. I doubt many on this board will complain if they veer from the source material and not cast Stephen King to play himself in the later seasons.
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