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re: 'Thor: Love and Thunder' A Disaster: Compared To 'Batman & Robin'

Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:33 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:33 am to
Those aren't the issues at all. No shock your dumb arse has that take though.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:35 am to
Then go cry somewhere else.

You act like every fricking movie is a fricking drag Queen makeup instruction video for kids.

The average person is 100% tired of y’all bitching.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:35 am to
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“Women can be the main character”


People have known this since 1939 when Vivien Leigh owned it as Scarlett O'Hara in Gone With the Wind. It's not that women can't be the main character, it's that in order for women to be strong characters in this era of screenwriting/filmmaking, they have to be more masculine and their feminine qualities must be kept to a minimum.

That is woke culture. It has nothing to do with making women the main character and everything to do with how they go about making women the main character.

This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 9:36 am
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:38 am to
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I will say Phase 1 was kind of jumbled too, in retrospect. They really started cleaning this up and getting their shite together in Phase 2,


i think that’s because they didn’t know if this whole Universe tying together thing would work yet, so they made movies that didn’t necessarily need the rest.

then by phase 2, they knew this would work and began making movies that all ties together and you really needed to see them all to follow along.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:46 am to
I think They are also trying to slightly reset.

Introduce a few new characters because they lost a few.

From what they’ve said phase 4 doesn’t end with another full cast avengers. It ends with fantastic 4 and then we will probably see a ramp up in phase 5
Posted by Jfk Jr
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:50 am to
Some knuckle dragging, right wing idiot doesn't like it.

Big deal.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:15 am to
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Then go cry somewhere else. You act like every fricking movie is a fricking drag Queen makeup instruction video for kids. The average person is 100% tired of y’all bitching.


Riiiight. That's why Lightyear is fricking killing it. Oh wait. The fantasy world you retard leftists live in sure must be nice.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:19 am to
It’s funny how the dudes with no kids act like a father of three is less masculine than they are.

Like that idiot “mathematician” at the Shapiro debate, or in this case, SFP, the ultimate friend zone guy.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:43 am to
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End of movie also included Korg having a kid with another Korg with a mustache. Korg is gay btw, since all Kroans are male (as depicted in the comics).


While I don’t pretend to have a Ph D in biology or be a geneticist or doctor, would someone be “gay” if there was only one gender in an entire species?

Would they even be considered male or female?
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:44 am to
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It’s funny how the dudes with no kids make act like a father of three is less masculine than they are.


How does having kids make you “more” masculine?
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 12:18 pm to
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Riiiight. That's why Lightyear is fricking killing it. Oh wait. The fantasy world you retard leftists live in sure must be nice.


We’re back to gay people existing being an issue for you counts.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 12:57 pm to
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How does having kids make you “more” masculine?


Public schools are failing us, it seems.
Posted by Crimson K
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:11 pm to
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We’re back to gay people existing being an issue for you counts.

I get that your Schlick is being a grade A count and all, but it isn’t that they exist, which you are well aware of. It is that they are part of “the message” that is inserted in every single thing that Disney puts out. Everything has to have a recognition and celebration of the lifestyle. Even if you couldn’t care less, it is really fricking tiring and detracts from rather than adds to a story. It is like a big fricking time out in an action adventure story that is there strictly as pandering. Can you honestly imagine a straight Christian conservative character being included unless it was in pure mockery? Are there celebrations of heterosexual two parent families?
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:27 pm to
“It’s not that they exists it’s that I have To be reminded that they exist and act like I don’t hate them.”

Schtick*

“It doesn’t add to the story”

So? Of the character in Lightyear was straight would that add to the story? But you wouldn’t be bitching about it.

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Can you honestly imagine a straight Christian conservative character being included unless it was in pure mockery?


Well there are plenty of straight characters

You need them to agree with you politically and socially too?

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Are there celebrations of heterosexual two parent families?


Whole movies about them. Here are a few from Disney

Inside/Out
Turning Red
The incrediblea
Coco
Luca
Encanto
Incredibles

Heterosexual couples With families Play a much more prominent role In ALL of these
Movies most of them are about the importance of family.

This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:49 pm to
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We’re back to gay people existing being an issue for you counts.

Never said anything like that. You're such a clown.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:00 pm to
You keep saying you don’t have a problem with gay characters existing while sky screaming about movies that have gay characters who just exist.

What was so bad about the Lesbian in Lightyear? Besides her being in Lightyear?
Posted by Crimson K
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:04 pm to
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“It’s not that they exists it’s that I have To be reminded that they exist and act like I don’t hate them

Take your straw man argument elsewhere, and quit reasoning like a child. Not what was said or intended. This is no different than people saying including this means that Disney are all groomers. Twisting words to the extreme to make a point is in fact demonstrative that you don’t have much of an argument to make. I’ll say that the whole Valkyrie things doesn’t bother me as it comes from the source material, AND the movie isn’t directed at kids.


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Of the character in Lightyear was straight would that add to the story? But you wouldn’t be bitching about it.

*If
If it was an aside inserted for no other reason but pandering, yes it would be annoying and distracting. If a kid’s movie were to include a family struggling to decide about getting an abortion, but concluding keeping the child was the right and moral decision, it would be equally ridiculous.


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Well there are plenty of straight characters You need them to agree with you politically and socially too?

Are you legit saying there is no political or social context to this discussion seriously? But to answer your question, no I don’t. But I am also not insisting at every turn that they agree with me or be labeled a bigot.


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Are there celebrations of heterosexual two parent families? Whole movies about them. Here are a few from Disney Inside/Out Turning Red The incrediblea Coco Luca Encanto Incredibles Heterosexual couples With families Play a much more prominent role In ALL of these Movies most of them are about the importance of family

A fair answer; I wasn’t super clear, but I meant are there any similar add-ins that celebrate a “normal” lifestyle.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 2:08 pm
Posted by gobnugget
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:16 pm to
Top Gun just proves how gay America is now. The original was the most homo erotic mainstream movie ever. No surprise the sequel did even better.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:18 pm to
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Top Gun just proves how gay America is now. The original was the most homo erotic mainstream movie ever. No surprise the sequel did even better.


Clearly you’ve never watched The Lost Boys
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:25 pm to
What’s your issue then? What’s the problem with the “agenda” when it doesn’t make the movie worse and you don’t have an issue with gay people?

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If it was an aside inserted for no other reason but pandering, yes it would be annoying and distracting. If a kid’s movie were to include a family struggling to decide about getting an abortion, but concluding keeping the child was the right and moral decision, it would be equally ridiculous.


Gay people aren’t an adult subject. Gay sex is for sure, but you don’t need to talk about gay sex to talk about gay people anymore than you need to talk about straight sec to talk about straight people.

quote:

Are you legit saying there is no political or social context to this discussion seriously? But to answer your question, no I don’t. But I am also not insisting at every turn that they agree with me or be labeled a bigot.


What’s the agenda? And why aren’t you ok with it?

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A fair answer; I wasn’t super clear, but I meant are there any similar add-ins that celebrate a “normal” lifestyle.


So minor characters living in straight lifestyles?

Sure
Fro-zone has a wife in Incredibles.
There are like 10 minor relationships going on in Encanto.
Wall-E has the subplot with the two fat humans falling in love
I would Argue the two humans falling in love in Ratatoullie is a subplot in a movie about a rat that cooks
Riley getting into boys at the end of Inside Out doesn’t move the plot forward.

And none of these are bad. Romantic subplots are common. Characters having families is commons

And to the subject of this thread: the critic literally wrote the book on why Hollywoodmis bad because it’s woke.

But Thor dealing with a break up and his ex showing up with his hammer while stacking bodies is going to be amazing
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 2:29 pm
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