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re: The Watchmen - so, somebody explain this brilliant plan to me (SPOILERS)
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:00 pm to Brosef Stalin
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:00 pm to Brosef Stalin
My problem with it is that whether it was a giant alien monster or Dr. Manhattan, nothing in human history would indicate to me that this would cause an end to the aggressive and violent sides of human nature. And you would think people would figure out pretty soon that there was no alien threat to band together against.
I think maybe Moore was on some good stuff when writing that plot.
I think maybe Moore was on some good stuff when writing that plot.
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:03 pm to Methuselah
The extra documentaries in The Ultimate Cut dvd are all really good and worth watching if you want more insight into this world.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:05 pm to Methuselah
Aggression and violence don't necessarily need to end. Just the threat of nuclear annihilation.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:06 pm to Brosef Stalin
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humanity had no chance of defeating Manhattan even if they had all teamed together. Seems kinda pointless to even try.
Kinda like trying to fight God? The point isn't to fight him. It's to fear him. Keep fricking up and I'll kill millions more and there's nothing you can do about it. I saw the plan as basically the start of religion.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:06 pm to TigerMyth36
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Which makes the bit at the end a flaw because he would easily be able to see the journal in the future and stop it from being released.
I think you're making an assumption that it would matter that it was released.
It was a journal left anonymously, containing a story that could be perceived as farfetched. They needed something to print, so they printed it. No different than a story printed in the National Enquirer, it's read though not reputed. It can be retold, but it's not known as fact to the public...
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:07 pm to Walking the Earth
If that was all that was necessary Manhattan could have blinked like Jeannie and turned all the fissionable material on Earth into salt.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:08 pm to TigerMyth36
True but none of this was Manhattan's plan.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:08 pm to TigerMyth36
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If that was all that was necessary Manhattan could have blinked like Jeannie and turned all the fissionable material on Earth into salt.
Except he didn't give a shite about Earth. He was over it and was starting a new world.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:12 pm to JJ27
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Except he didn't give a shite about Earth. He was over it and was starting a new world.
bullshite. He is the one that becomes the plan in the movie. Once again, all your arguments keep pointing to the flaws in the movie.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:13 pm to TigerMyth36
Did he not specifically say he didn't care about Earth and he only cared about Mars? Pretty sure he tells the chick that gets banged in every movie she's in that when they were on Mars.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:15 pm to TigerMyth36
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He is the one that becomes the plan in the movie.
It wasn't his plan though. Ozy was just using him.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:18 pm to TigerMyth36
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I am tired of Earth. These people. Tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives
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Why would I save a world I no longer have any stake in?
He didn't care about Earth
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:23 pm to TigerMyth36
quote:He has nothing to do with the plan.
bullshite. He is the one that becomes the plan in the movie. Once again, all your arguments keep pointing to the flaws in the movie.
And yes, he could see at any point in time, but only what he specifically witnesses. According to the story, he couldn't see the accident because of the energy that was used to cause it. It blocked out his view of that point.
You could argue that he could have figured it out after, but after the incident, he left earth and stopped caring about it.
Yes, there are plot holes, but it's a freaking comic book movie.
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:26 pm to Brosef Stalin
If Ozimndias was so smart and could manipulate Manhattan or convince him it was worth doing away with the threat of nuclear war, seems like there were much preferable ways of accomplishing that.
I think marvel did something similar with Squadron Supreme which actually involved taking over governance of the world to some extent. That seems to have been bit more logical.
Movie was just a sign of it's times I guess.
I think marvel did something similar with Squadron Supreme which actually involved taking over governance of the world to some extent. That seems to have been bit more logical.
Movie was just a sign of it's times I guess.
Posted on 3/30/13 at 12:31 am to The Easter Bunny
I thought the movie was brilliant, but its one of those rare movies where I completely understand if people reviled it
Posted on 3/30/13 at 9:20 am to Baloo
When comic book movies work, they work for the spectacle, not the logic.
Posted on 3/30/13 at 10:54 am to TigerMyth36
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