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re: The Walking Dead
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:55 pm to Cajun Revolution
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:55 pm to Cajun Revolution
I think that now that they sort of have a base to work out of, they need to scavenge the dead bodies during the daytime to get any leftover weapons and ammo they can find. And start burning the dead bodies as well to start cleaning shite up.
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:56 pm to LSUZombie
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Personally (no spoiler, just my thoughts), I don't expect Darryl to be around much longer.
I hope not. He's the only real survivalist they have and provides a good balance to Rick. Besides, he's a good shot and a tough sumbitch.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:57 pm to Cajun Revolution
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Him getting bit and not telling anybody made him deserve a bullet
True, but its not bullet deserving. He knew they would find out and, at the time, he didn't warrant a bullet to the head.
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And it's pretty selfish, not to mention weird to choose to become a zombie
i don't think its sefish, but ok
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I'd have asked to be left alone, said some prayers and do some thinking, then shot myself
well thats you, but not everyone could put a gun to their head and pull the trigger.
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But no, this motherfricker wants to sit by a tree and wait to start feeding on people.
well he said he wanted to somehow be reunited with his family.
all i can say is that the way they handled it in the comic made more sense. the tv series dropped the ball a little on Jim
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:58 pm to LSUZombie
If you want selfish, how bout the stupid man and woman with the kids? hey, we are going to leave the safety of the group and just hang out here. don't worry, we won't see them again because they are fricked.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:00 pm to ProjectP2294
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I hope not. He's the only real survivalist they have and provides a good balance to Rick. Besides, he's a good shot and a tough sumbitch.
you can just tell by the way he carries himself (he is reckless and hot headed) and the fact that he does not get along with the main core of survivors that he will not be a major player for long
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:02 pm to LSUZombie
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Yeah how would the French be the last to hold out on anything?
The Maginot Line?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:10 pm to LSUZombie
Sorry for adamantly disagreeing the way I have...I'm just questioning the mentality of these people 6+ months into this tragedy. Ricks the only one who should still be "emotionally involved" bc he was camped up for 5 months.
It seems to me the others would have developed a more overlying primal survival instinct by now to cope with tragedy. The magic Negro only hesitated with his wife...but anybody else he interacted with that was infected he didn't care. It seems outside family, they'd be a little more emotionally shut off.
I'm not buying the weeping willow story act they've created. I'm sure they're humanizing this for TV and the comic was a more accurate portrayal.
It seems to me the others would have developed a more overlying primal survival instinct by now to cope with tragedy. The magic Negro only hesitated with his wife...but anybody else he interacted with that was infected he didn't care. It seems outside family, they'd be a little more emotionally shut off.
I'm not buying the weeping willow story act they've created. I'm sure they're humanizing this for TV and the comic was a more accurate portrayal.
This post was edited on 11/28/10 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:16 pm to jmarto1
For those wondering what could cause the military defensive lines to fail, consider this:
1) we now have a relative timestamp of 6 months "since wildfire was declared" (BTW, love the reference to Andromeda Strain")
2) consider that Rick could not have lived more than a week without support and the hospital was defended by military units
3) consider the "freshness" of the corpse zombie in the tank
Seems to me the breakdown was logistical in nature. Shooting down zombies for months, with each shot drawing more targets, with economic infrastructure breaking down due to the outbreak....
It's entirely possible the Army got overrun due to a lack of supplies and ammo.
This explanation does cause problems though, namely why the frick would Rick be so out of it for 6 months
1) we now have a relative timestamp of 6 months "since wildfire was declared" (BTW, love the reference to Andromeda Strain")
2) consider that Rick could not have lived more than a week without support and the hospital was defended by military units
3) consider the "freshness" of the corpse zombie in the tank
Seems to me the breakdown was logistical in nature. Shooting down zombies for months, with each shot drawing more targets, with economic infrastructure breaking down due to the outbreak....
It's entirely possible the Army got overrun due to a lack of supplies and ammo.
This explanation does cause problems though, namely why the frick would Rick be so out of it for 6 months
This post was edited on 11/28/10 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:19 pm to Cajun Revolution
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I'm sure they're humanizing this for TV and the comic was a more accurate portrayal
i agree with that 100%
I think the tv series is kirkman's way of trying things out that he wanted to (or wish he did) in the comic but didn't. I'm not crazy about them going to the CDC. I have no clue what is going to happen and i don't care for how far they are straying from the comic. All i know are the major players and because of that I know who will live and who will die.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:21 pm to Siderophore
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It's entirely possible the Army got overrun due to a lack of supplies and ammo
not to mention how many cops and soldiers abandoned their posts to be with their own family? hell, they did it during Katrina, so why not during a zombie attack?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:30 pm to ProjectP2294
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I hope not. He's the only real survivalist they have and provides a good balance to Rick. Besides, he's a good shot and a tough sumbitch.
You and me both. In addition to his survivial skills, I find him to be one of the most interesting and rounded characters on the show. He has shown the ability to grow and change to some extent and I think he has more potential for a full character arc than most of the others
I mean, Rick will probably always be the noble and competent but imperfect hero. Shane will always be the best friend who pines after his partner's wife. Glenn will always be the meek and mild but resourceful quiet one. Dale will always be the wise and scholarly older guy, etc. etc. (strangely, I think Anrea is another character who holds promise but the previews for next week look kind of ominous for her).
Speaking of characters with growiwng room - Ed's wife sure seemed to exercise a few demons on his head there. And Jackie is a blank slate who got some good moments interacting with Jim. If they don't red shirt these two they could have potential for some character arcs.
Edited to get Dale's name right - thanks LSUZombie.
This post was edited on 11/28/10 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:33 pm to Methuselah
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I mean, Rick will probably always be the noble and competent but imperfect hero. Shane will always be the best friend who pines after his partner's wife. Glenn will always be the meek and mild but resourceful quiet one. Dale will always be the wise and scholarly older guy, etc. etc. (strangely, I think Andrea is another character who holds promise but the previews for next week look kind of ominous for her).
Speaking of characters with growiwng room - Ed's wife sure seemed to exercise a few demons on his head there. And Jackie is a blank slate who got some good moments interacting with Jim. If they don't red shirt these two they could have potential for some character arcs.
FIFY
and you are pretty much on target with the character assessments. i sometimes wish i didn't know as much as i do about the series
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:41 pm to LSUZombie
Definitely the first clunker episode of Walking Dead. There's just no reason that an episode of a show about zombies, especially in a 6 episode season, should be that boring.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:48 pm to ligerbait
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Definitely the first clunker episode of Walking Dead
eh, i don't agree. i liked the aftermath of them using a pick axe on the dead. Andrea's moment with Amy, Jim being left, Carol hitting her dead husband over and over, etc
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There's just no reason that an episode of a show about zombies, especially in a 6 episode season, should be that boring.
there have been times in the comics where they will go 5-6 issues without a zombie, or maybe one scene with a zombie. this is a series about the people and the survivors and how they interact. the zombies are a back drop.
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at your screen namePosted on 11/28/10 at 11:58 pm to LSUZombie
Clunker was harsh, it was just the first one I didn't love. Still some good stuff though. I love slow methodical shows(Mad Men, hell I even liked Rubicon until the horrible finale), but I'm just used to a show's penultimate episode being the strongest of the season along w/ finales. Guess I just had high expectations for this one.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:59 pm to ligerbait
When they went to the CDC video diary scene it felt like a scene that would have been on LOST. IT was cool.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:02 am to ligerbait
less melodrama and more action. sometimes the show tries to beat you over the head with sentiment.
the ratio is a bit off, but overall a great series that i look forward to.
the ratio is a bit off, but overall a great series that i look forward to.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:23 am to LSUZombie
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. this is a series about the people and the survivors and how they interact. the zombies are a back drop.
This is disappointing then. Seems more like Lost by the episode. Character arcs are great but the reason I'm watching is the f-ing zombies and their survival. I'm not a fan of melodrama fricking up my science fiction.
If this is truly the case I may not make it past next season. More zombies arcs, less guy trying to make moves on somebodies wife.
I'm disappointed if that's how they're trying to play it. Probably would have been regulated to the Sci Fi channel though had it strictly been about surviving a zombie apocalypse.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:28 am to Cajun Revolution
All I can say is that it would get boring if it was a show about killing zombies for 40 minutes. The zombies are always there and play major roles in the plot, but the main focus is how characters deal with one another and others they meet.
I encourage you to hold on, because the best has yet to come. Also, there is a reason the comic is so successful. It's more than just killing zombies. There are a lot of people we haven't met yet and a lot of big time events on the horizon
I encourage you to hold on, because the best has yet to come. Also, there is a reason the comic is so successful. It's more than just killing zombies. There are a lot of people we haven't met yet and a lot of big time events on the horizon
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:37 am to LSUZombie
Sweet! Thanks for the teaser As long as it's not the same cyclical drama about the wife I'll be a happy camper. She's just not that fine to put up a fuss about but the pickins are kinda slim
As long as it's not the same cyclical drama about the wife I'll be a happy camper. She's just not that fine to put up a fuss about but the pickins are kinda slim 
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