re: The Walking Dead, Season 3 Ep 12: "Clear" **No Spoilers**

quote:

---

IMO a spoiler (for someone up to date on the show) is anything that spoils future shite for people. Like manwich said, the director saying "She's really dead" isn't really a spoiler like him saying "Is she dead? I don't know, but we may be seeing her again......" would be.

---

okay. I withdrawal my "eff you" comments. i'm assuming you've avoided all of the SPOILERS posts so far in these threads. As far as I know, every "spoiler" that has been posted has been clarification from either Kirkman or one of the cast members. so, there really haven't been any spoilers posted. People were just being really cautious just in case.

In light of this revelation:
- the governor actor said that the person driving the zombie bomb van was one of his men.
- Kirkman said this in response to Carl not shooting Lori on screen:

quote:

---

You don't want to show too much of that stuff. I think we showed quite a bit in this episode. A lesser show would have a zombie Lori lurking in the prison and doing all kinds of nefarious things. That would be an absolutely hokey, ridiculous thing to do. That's certainly not something we're trying to set up. We were just trying to step back and do this in a little bit more tasteful way.

---

IMO, that doesn't prove that Carl shot her. I still think they have this in their back pocket, kind of like Morgan.

quote:

---

IMO a spoiler (for someone up to date on the show) is anything that spoils future shite for people. Like manwich said, the director saying "She's really dead" isn't really a spoiler like him saying "Is she dead? I don't know, but we may be seeing her again......" would be.

---

I give up trying to figure out what people consider spoilers. To be it is an extremely expansive definition to consider something said by the shows director and personnel in a show like Talking Dead that airs after the episode to be a spoiler. It's not like they're going to give away any great surprise twists to their own show. I'm wondering if the "next on" bit at the end of the episode or the little trailers they put on some of their other shows are also considered spoilers?

Ah well, it's to be expected on a message board with wildly different levels of sensitivity to this sort of thing I guess.

quote:

---

The newb just called y'all a couple of bitches.

Way to go newb.

---

I nominate Springfield XD for Newb of the Year. It is now up to him to earn the award by continued excellence throughout 2013. Prize is a free Premium Membership.

quote:

---

what about them clarifying and saying that Carl did in fact shoot Lori in the head, and that she never became a walker? It is confirming what we were supppose to believe. Or, them stating that the person in body armor that drove the zombie car bomb into the prison was just one of the Governor's people. It isn't some surprise person with a big reveal later.

---

How about not mentioning it either way? Is it that fricking hard? Seriously?

If it's too difficult for your tired brain to discern then just avoid "No Spoilers" threads.

quote:

---

Talking Dead has often been allowed in these threads. I usually steer clear of such discussion, but there is precedent for it being allowed.

---

Well, aren't I the fricking a-hole?

Why does everyone have to be so sensitive about this shite?

I'm not criticizing you, I'm just reviewing what has already been discussed. Hell, I even created a spoiler thread this week to try to stop this petty bickering, but alas it appears to be inevitable.

quote:

---

I don't mind being the fricking a-hole FWIW.

---

That's a healthy attitude.

Well if the writers and show runner tell us something in the media then that is NOT a spoiler.

They have the biggest vested interest in not ruining their own show.

When Kirkman or Mazarra clarify a plot point in a interview I just assume they want to answer fan questions that they know won't ever be addressed on screen. If they hem and haw about something, we know that plot point will come up again.

Short version - interviews and Talking Dead aren't spoilers. Quit acting vaginal.

quote:

---

As far as I'm concerned, a spoiler is anything that hasn't been revealed on screen. It's really that simple.

---

I respect yor stance. However, I must say that seems to be an extreme definition of the term. By that reading, news that the show shot in a certain state would be considered a spoiler. As would reports of what actors were involved, when the season starts, what characters were on the show, etc. etc. Heck, any magazine articles or advertisements that the show would even be made and broadcast would be a spoiler under that logic.

But, bottom line is that I've kind of resigned myself to the fact that we have to defer to the lowest common denominator as far as aversion to spoiler levels. I mean, I'd love to be able to discuss Talking Dead while hashing out the show without going into the full comic book spoiler threads. But there will be someone or other who considers just about everything a spoiler. So, I guess it's just we have to stay away from Talking Dead, etc.

As an aside, here is the most thoughtful discussion of the matter that I could find: What is a spoiler

quote:

---

However, I must say that seems to be an extreme definition of the term.

---

Its the only way to keep it straight.

As far as I'm concerned, if it wasn't included in the original broadcast, then it's not part of the show yet. I understand people might have a different opinion.

But let's say I'm reading the book, or comics if you will. I don't want to hear or read articles about that comic that give anything away.

I dont care if the director gave an interview, if it's not on the show then it should not be in the discussion.

But again, that's why I don't frequent these threads. Seems enough are ok with that so I just stay out of it.