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re: The Walking Dead S4E8 "Too Far Gone" *no comic discussion*
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:40 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:40 am to CocomoLSU
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So why say it at all? This isn't the thread for anything comics-related. Why can't you just have those discussions or leave those tidbits in the comic thread?
About Lily? They made her a nurse in THE SHOW which could possibly give her a reason to be taken in by the group (they need all the medical help they can get now) IN THE SHOW. It COULD BE the same reason they let Carol back in as she was shown to be trained as a nurse by Herschel as well. It was completely related to where they go from her in the show, with the GN having no bearing on that at all.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 10:42 am
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:42 am to CocomoLSU
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Of course that's not going to "spoil" the show, and I've said that multiple times. But that kind of comic detail leads to other things, which leads to more things and soon enough, it's comic readers having their own discussion (and talking about comic shite) amongst nonreaders and things get spoiled. You can't act like that doesn't happen around here.
He is talking about two things with regards to characters in which their story lines are done. That's not going to evolve into some big spoiler. Its not even worth dragging this thread down to bitch about the govenor's race of the chick's profession.
And this was the first season in which there were seperate threads for TWD, so in the past there was a grey area in which people toed the line on this stuff. I have yet to see anything spoiled in the various TWD threads this season which is a lot different than we've seen at times for GOT and their seperate threads.
It is also harder because GOT actually seems to follow the novel much more closely from what I understand. That's not the case with TWD. The readers thread also sucks for the most part. All they talk about is who is shooting and where for the most part along with upcoming characters. There isn't much episode disucssions, so this thread is good for episode disucsions. I think folks have done a solid job not posting actual spoilers while toeing the line to discuss the show.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:45 am to CocomoLSU
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So we're now a bit off course because of your comments circa page 35, are we not? Seems like you're the problem directly, no?
I really have to agree with him though. Lily is an insignifant character in the comics. She killed the governor and did nothing else. She had no back story. Kirkman said all of this on Talking Dead. He said it was disappointing the way the governor died in the gn and went into detail about it. Nothing about that character could spoil the show.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:45 am to Libertyabides71
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About Lily?
About anything.
It's weird...
"This is the thread for no comic discussion."
You: "But those are unimportant things from the comics.."
"Right, but this is the thread for NO COMIC discussion."
You: "But what's the big deal...I didn't spoil anything; I just mentioned random comic stuff."
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:46 am to Libertyabides71
If I was a non-reader, I would personally welcome tidbits like who Lily is, the governors race, etc etc from the comics without crossing the major spoiler line. I think it adds to the viewing experience and makes things easier to understand.
However, the non-readers in this thread have made it perfectly clear that even mentioning that the comics exist is considered not welcome so just move on man.
The comic thread is plenty active, if you have something to say just say it there.
However, the non-readers in this thread have made it perfectly clear that even mentioning that the comics exist is considered not welcome so just move on man.
The comic thread is plenty active, if you have something to say just say it there.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 10:47 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:47 am to CocomoLSU
Its an unsustainable rule especially when enforced by someone who can't tell the difference. Now "Do not spoil anything about the show's future based on the GN" makes much more sense.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:49 am to tylercsbn9
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I really have to agree with him though. Lily is an insignifant character in the comics. She killed the governor and did nothing else. She had no back story. Kirkman said all of this on Talking Dead. He said it was disappointing the way the governor died in the gn and went into detail about it. Nothing about that character could spoil the show.
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He is talking about two things with regards to characters in which their story lines are done. That's not going to evolve into some big spoiler
For the umpteenth time..it's not as much about spoilers as it is about just don't talk about the comics in this thread. It's clearly labeled as such, and should be followed. It's that simple.
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And this was the first season in which there were seperate threads for TWD
False.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:49 am to hiltacular
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If I was a non-reader, I would personally welcome tidbits like who Lily is, the governors race, etc etc from the comics without crossing the major spoiler line. I think it adds to the viewing experience and makes things easier to understand.
However, the non-readers in this thread have made it perfectly clear that even mentioning that the comics exist is considered not welcome so just move on man.
The comic thread is plenty active, if you have something to say just say it there.
Why should I "move on"? Like I said I discussed this episode perfectly fine with people in this thread for 35 pages until someone forgot to change their tampon over two insignificant observations. And what is worse they can't even tell the insignificance of said observations.
If it isn't spoiling anything why should it matter? Other than certain people don't want to be associated with a "Graphic Novel"?
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 10:52 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:50 am to tylercsbn9
there needed to be separate threads because people like yourself could never contain themselves with shite like "OMG there's the prison! The governor is coming!!" "OMG michonne is finally here!!" "in the comic the tank ends up taking out the baby when the governor storms the prison, but that didn't happen" keep in mind that last one was said at the end of last season by an idiot, so guess what I thought was going to happen when the tank showed up last week?
by the way you were one of the worst offenders of comic speculation
by the way you were one of the worst offenders of comic speculation
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:52 am to hiltacular
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I think it adds to the viewing experience and makes things easier to understand.
Readers have always said that. Last season in the GoT threads, there was one reader who said he wanted to sort of "guide" nonreaders in their watching experience. Nobody needs that shite, and if they do they can ask questions about it to readers in appropriate threads (which has happened and worked just fine).
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However, the non-readers in this thread have made it perfectly clear that even mentioning that the comics exist is considered not welcome so just move on man.
The comic thread is plenty active, if you have something to say just say it there.
That's all I'm trying to get across. And I know I come off as a dick sometimes, but most of the time it's not meant to be. So Liberty, I have no problems with you outside of this thread...I just ask that you keep any and all comic-related anything out of these threads.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:53 am to Libertyabides71
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Its an unsustainable rule especially when enforced by someone who can't tell the difference.
It's not, and there are admins who read the books and monitor the threads.
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Now "Do not spoil anything about the show's future based on the GN" makes much more sense.
It used to be similar to that, but has evolved into just keeping show discussion and book discussion separate.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:55 am to CocomoLSU
I can understand not wanting to be spoiled, but absolutely no discussion/bitching about irrelevant details make "non-readers" look petty or illiterate. After all the issues that are being adapted as the show right now came out a decade ago. That is cool if you don't want to read them so not to be spoiled but if you are a fan of the show then why do want to hate other fans so much?
I am going to post in these threads, I am not going to spoil anything but an irrelevant observation doesn't deserve a public execution either.
I am going to post in these threads, I am not going to spoil anything but an irrelevant observation doesn't deserve a public execution either.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 10:57 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 10:56 am to Libertyabides71
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until someone forgot to change their tampon over two insignificant observations. And what is worse they can't even tell the insignificance of said observations.
If that's directed at me, go frick yourself. If not, then nevermind.
I very clearly stated several times now that two of the things you said were insignificant. Very clearly. Also, let's not forget that you also brought up actors on the set which definitely would fall under the spoiler category for a lot of people.
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If it isn't spoiling anything why should it matter? Other than certain people don't want to be associated with a "Graphic Novel"?
It's not about that, and I believe that you know that. I am thankful that this half of the season is over and this is the last time we'll deal with it for a while. If when it comes back on you still think it's not a big deal and doesn't matter (despite the thread title specifically asking you not to), then good luck when that.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:00 am to BilJ
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"in the comic the tank ends up taking out the baby when the governor storms the prison, but that didn't happen" keep in mind that last one was said at the end of last season by an idiot, so guess what I thought was going to happen when the tank showed up last week?
Well, at least his spoiler about that was wrong to begin with
But yeah, It's not hard to discuss the show without spoiling the comic. I've nearly the entire series, and it is simple self-restraint to post ideas that stem from comic.
Personally, I think "See the GN" explanations are bullshite anyways. Other than character names and general plot outlines, the show is very far removed from the comic book saying "this was person like this in the comic or they did this in comic" is pointless.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:01 am to CocomoLSU
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I very clearly stated several times now that two of the things you said were insignificant. Very clearly. Also, let's not forget that you also brought up actors on the set which definitely would fall under the spoiler category for a lot of people.
I agree that comments regarding what actors are on set have been explicitly forbidden itt but calling that a spoiler is a stretch imo. The directors have already said they are paying and keeping actors on set so that people can't guess who dies.
Me saying that Rick is on set for every episode (which I have no idea if he is) is hardly a spoiler and to make a guess at the plot based on that is a stretch.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:02 am to Libertyabides71
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I can understand not wanting to be spoiled, but absolutely no discussion/bitching about irrelevant details make "non-readers" look petty or illiterate. After all the issues that are being adapted as the show right now came out a decade ago. That is cool if you don't want to read them so not to be spoiled but if you are a fan of the show then why do want to hate other fans so much?
I don't "hate other fans." I respect that they know more about the show than I do because they have a firmer grasp on what's going on because of their knowledge of having read the books. I just choose not to read the books and would rather digest the show as it comes on television. And so would most people in the "nonreader" threads. It doesn't make anyone petty and choosing not to read a book certainly doesn't make some illiterate. If anything, you using the word petty is sort of telling because you seem to think that nonreaders are, in essence, beneath you.
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I am going to post in these threads, I am not going to spoil anything but an irrelevant observation doesn't deserve a public execution either.
Cool. Just know if you continue posting about the comics in threads where that information doesn't belong, you won't get much support from anyone (including admins).
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:04 am to hiltacular
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Me saying that Rick is on set for every episode (which I have no idea if he is) is hardly a spoiler and to make a guess at the plot based on that is a stretch.
You don't think someone saying "Guys, check it out...Lennie James is on set filming for TWD" is a spoiler-ish?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:05 am to hiltacular
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Me saying that Rick is on set for every episode (which I have no idea if he is) is hardly a spoiler and to make a guess at the plot based on that is a stretch.
It's spoilerish in that it says he doesn't die anytime soon.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:06 am to CocomoLSU
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You don't think someone saying "Guys, check it out...Lennie James is on set filming for TWD" is a spoiler-ish?
It would be a huge spoiler definitely. That is why I don't post spoilers, what I put was more "they've been seen filming in the groups they left the prison together in".
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 11:08 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 11:06 am to smkspy
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Personally, I think "See the GN" explanations are bullshite anyways. Other than character names and general plot outlines, the show is very far removed from the comic book saying "this was person like this in the comic or they did this in comic" is pointless.
Again: Is the Gov in the comics? Does he have an eyepatch? Is the prison in the comics? Is Michonne in the comics? Did she have walker pets? Did Shane turn in the comics? Did Carl shoot him?
All of those things have been pretty big parts of the show, and all are from the comics, are they not?
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