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re: The Vanishing at the Cecil Hotel on Netflix
Posted on 2/25/21 at 12:26 am to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 2/25/21 at 12:26 am to Henry Jones Jr
quote:This story honestly got to me more than any other thing in the documentary. The rush to judgment and conspiracy theories destroyed this mans life. All because he expressed himself a certain way. It was heartbreaking.
I'm fricking irate after seeing how the singer was treated. He was there a whole fricking year before she was even there but the web detectives missed that and hounded this man until he tried to kill himself.
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:41 am to BabyTac
I found it weird that the lid was shut (IIRC), when they found her. According to the documentary it would've been very hard for her to get any footing to then be able to even reach the 20 lb (?) lid and close it? Then again I guess a maintenance worker could have just closed it if they saw it open - but you think that would've prompted someone to look inside first before closing and maybe it wouldn't have taken so long to find her.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 7:42 am
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:20 am to southpawcock
It wasn’t shut. The police botched that (very important) fact in an interview with the media. Would have probably prevented all of conspiracy nuts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:27 am to JesusQuintana
I saw some comments about this doc online, and they were bashing it because of the content and "experts" on it. One complaint was that they basically interviewed youtubers and "internet sleuths" as if they were actual detectives or something like that, and that it was completely ridiculous and presented as some sort of actual fact or investigation.
Any truth to that?
Any truth to that?
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:38 am to CocomoLSU
quote:They do it as a bait only. Then at the end basically say “Ha! Gotcha! It was all bull shite.”
Any truth to that?
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:15 am to JesusQuintana
quote:
It wasn’t shut. The police botched that (very important) fact in an interview with the media. Would have probably prevented all of conspiracy nuts
Nope. The police spokesman said, "My understanding was that the lid was closed when our officers went up there."
Most people watching this series were wondering to themselves, "When are they going to ask the custodian if the lid was open or closed when he found her, and if he closed the lid when he went to alert the hotel manager?"
None of the internet sleuths that they interviewed touched on this, or they edited out that question to make a better show. Or the sleuths intentionally avoided asking for clarification because that would've destroyed their conspiracy theory.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:34 am to McGregor
quote:
they spent 2 hours letting internet nerds give their theories, none of which were ever correct.
The show was about 40 minutes of interesting content and 3 hours and 20 minutes internet addicted losers and tenuous fabricated red-herrings.
Unless you are just a completely naïve moron or some loser looking to pretend you are in a Scooby-Doo mystery the elevator video was not all that mysterious or nefarious. From the very first watch it was CLEAR the the girl was either on some mind-altering drug or (once they revealed she was bi-polar) off her meds. After they showed the video they had to reach to invent ridiculous theories as to what might have happened to her to stretch the show out to four hours. The only surprise was them finding her in the water tower. What caused her to get there (she was likely having a manic episode) wasn't shocking.
The only two take aways from the show are that mental illness can be devastating and there is (apparently) a collection of complete losers out there in the world who need hobbies other than pretending to be Sherlock Holmes on Youtube. My wife and I watched until the end because we were too far in to not finish, but that could have been a 1 to 1.5 hour interesting show...not the four hour waste of time it is.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:49 am to Alt26
quote:
Alt26
Okay, yeah...that is basically the gist of the bad things I've heard about this doc. I think I'll pass. Sucks too, because the material is definitely intriguing. But this just seems like it's trying to hard to be similar to Don't frick With Cats.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:52 am to Fewer Kilometers
quote:
Nope. The police spokesman said, "My understanding was that the lid was closed when our officers went up there."
Did you watch the whole series? Because they admitted that police spokesman was just flat out wrong. It was open.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 12:54 pm to Alt26
quote:
The show was about 40 minutes of interesting content and 3 hours and 20 minutes internet addicted losers and tenuous fabricated red-herrings.
Nailed it
Posted on 2/25/21 at 12:56 pm to RedHawk
Yeah pretty much. After we watched it my wife and I both thought it was kind of pitiful. We both thought "Ok she was crazy and it was an accident" early on, and then they drug it out for 4 hours of "Internet Sleuths" which was ridiculous.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:00 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
id you watch the whole series? Because they admitted that police spokesman was just flat out wrong. It was open.
Yes. And they repeatedly showed the spokesman saying, "My understanding was that the lid was closed when our officers went up there." Which does not mean that it was closed when the custodian discovered the body. They can apologize for not clarifying it further, but from what was shown, the police didn't say that the body was first discovered in a closed tank.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:00 pm to Fun Bunch
I know it was all bullshite and fabricated conspiracy theories at the end but the LAM ELISA test correlation freaked me out a bit when they brought that up. Probably because that video footage just comes off as so disturbing.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 2/25/21 at 3:04 pm to southpawcock
It was definitely entertaining. The whole TB thing was a very weird coincidence, and most people disliked the web sleuth angle apparently but I thought it was an interesting look into that world. They did take them to task for basically ruining Morbid’s life.
Again though, this entire thing hinged on the cop saying that the kid was closed when they discovered the body. That rules out accident or suicide. Had they presented that this was wrong in the beginning then they have no show so I can see why they did it the way they did.
Again though, this entire thing hinged on the cop saying that the kid was closed when they discovered the body. That rules out accident or suicide. Had they presented that this was wrong in the beginning then they have no show so I can see why they did it the way they did.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 3:13 pm to TexasTiger90
This is a great point and it stood out to me also. It's not illegal to be weird(which he def was).
Those internet nerds ruined his life by trying to play cops and robber. I know this sounds insensitive but im keeping it real.
Those internet nerds ruined his life by trying to play cops and robber. I know this sounds insensitive but im keeping it real.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 3:27 pm to BhamBama13
quote:
Ty for saving me the time. The "web sleuths" finally got to me. That one guy that had a facebook page seemed like a sociopath
The redditors/nerds (go hand in hand really) were cracking me up being surprised that the police would not release all of the information. What did they expect?
The two guys that had a Facebook group about it are for sure sketchy dudes.
I know it’s a sad situation but wtf were the parents thinking letting this girl go to a major city all by herself in the state she was in?
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 2/25/21 at 3:32 pm to Bronson2017
quote:
I know it’s a sad situation but wtf were the parents thinking letting this girl go to a major city all by herself in the state she was in?
That's beyond comprehension. Seeing how she acted in that elevator, there's no way she should've been traveling alone.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:10 pm to JesusQuintana
quote:
Somebody hasn’t seen Don’t frick With Cats
Haven’t seen that since it came out but didn’t the guy pretty much just give out his identity? I feel like I remember there being multiple episodes on the sleuths trying to identify the freak and then the doc kind of glossed over the fact he more or less came to them online and doxxed himself and being like well wtf
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