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re: The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story series long thread

Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:40 am to
Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:40 am to
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The only likable attorney character on this show is Darden.


I think Marsha Clark also got too much hate. Sure she at least came off as a bitch, but she kinda had to in order to be in her position.

She seems to me like a decent person who was genuinely trying to do the right thing.
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:41 am to
One on one with Chris she is very likeable in the show at least

Anybody else wondered if their frickin?
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:44 am to
Shapiro is apparently making a lot of money with LegalZoom.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:04 pm to
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I have always wondered if the post-trial lives of the big OJ defense team had anything to do with Karma.


I've thought the same.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:10 pm to
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Anybody else wondered if their frickin?


I seem to recall Marcia Clark said in her book that they had an affair. But I was reading an interview with the guy who plays Chris Darden in the series and he said both of them were coy about it.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7900 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:18 pm to
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The only likable attorney character on this show is Darden.


I'll get crushed for saying this, which is why I'm not putting it on Facebook, but I can't help but like Johnnie Cochran in this series. He's a smart, tough S.O.B. who is doing everything he can for his client. And he tried to do Darden right by warning him about Mark Fuhrman. (I think that really happened) Robert Kardashian comes across as a decent human being who was a really good friend to O.J.
F. Lee Bailey and Robert Shapiro seem like pompous, lazy stuffed shirt types.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3984 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:31 pm to
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The only likable attorney character on this show is Darden.

I felt bad for him when JC spiked that n-word volleyball back in his face.

The Dershowitz character is pretty great, though not as central a figure. And Barry Scheck (even less central) founded the innocence project (just saw him yesterday in
the Michael Morton documentary).

They are just destroying Shapiro's character. He's got to be fuming.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:37 pm to
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They are just destroying Shapiro's character. He's got to be fuming.


And they made him a clown by casting Travolta and pan-caking his face
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7801 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 12:37 pm to
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but I can't help but like Johnnie Cochran
I couldn't stand him in real life and not a fan of his character. That being said, he is the epitome of what I would want in my lawyer if I was in a bad position.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
18159 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 8:35 pm to
The guy playing Cochran is nails.

If anybody has ever read "if I did it", it's the only thing that gives any insight as to what OJ's mind frame was like at the time of the murders.

The way he describes it, Nicole was bat shite crazy psycho...pretty much to the point of harrassment. I think she kept pushing his buttons and he eventually snapped in a fit of rage.

That doesn't excuse the actions of OJ though. a lot of folks have dealt with bat shite crazy chicks and haven't murdered them. Poor Ron Goldman, who was just returning a pair of lost eyeglasses left at Mezzaluna, was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and when confronted by OJ, kind of borderline provoked him (in the eyes of OJ).

As OJ described it, the entire scenario was-in his mind-a repeat incident of a previous sexual encounter Nicole had with another guy while the kids were upstairs asleep. He claims he took the knife from the Bronco just to scare the shite out of Nicole, but when Goldman showed up, he says he snapped and blacked out. When he came to, he was covered in blood and both of them were dead.

I can't wait til OJ dies so we can discover in the autopsy if he suffered from CTE.
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
18813 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 9:34 pm to
Dateline NBC currently airing the 2 hour "The People vs. O.J. Simpson: What the Jury Never Heard" for those of you that were too young to have witnessed it. Sorry for the late notice. Might be able to find it on demand.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
8350 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 9:46 pm to
All caught up. Very good show so far. Still upsetting to think OJ got off. The scene with Goldman's father was a tough one.

Only complaint is I don't think the show really emphasizes how much of a Hail Mary this case was for Cochran.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 11:34 pm to
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Poor Ron Goldman who was just returning a pair of lost eyeglasses


Huh?

He was sleeping with Nicole and driving OJ's Ferrari around town.

As Chris Rock said alluding to this..."you can leave a baby in the coat-check room and a restaurant won't return it to you unless you come and get it."
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 11:45 pm to
Yea i still can't believe that dumb arse glove line was such a highlight lol
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 11:56 pm to
From LA Times, 1994...

quote:

Some of Goldman's friends said he was merely returning a pair of sunglasses Nicole Simpson had left at the nearby restaurant where he worked as a waiter.

But Goldman, 25, also had an increasingly close relationship with 35-year-old Nicole Brown Simpson, whom he had exercised with, accompanied to dance clubs and often met for coffee and dinner during the past month and a half.

Six weeks ago Goldman was driving the Ferrari, with its highly recognizable L84AD8 license plate.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69094 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 12:07 am to
I wish they would have shown more about the retarded jurors discounting the odds of the DNA evidence. Fuhrman dropping N bombs and stupid jurors won the day for the juice. Johnny Cochran was awesome in that trial fwiw. He schooled the frick out of Clark and Darden
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
18159 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:42 pm to
Bump.

20 minutes to showtime
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
18159 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Some of Goldman's friends said he was merely returning a pair of sunglasses Nicole Simpson had left at the nearby restaurant where he worked as a waiter.

But Goldman, 25, also had an increasingly close relationship with 35-year-old Nicole Brown Simpson, whom he had exercised with, accompanied to dance clubs and often met for coffee and dinner during the past month and a half.

Six weeks ago Goldman was driving the Ferrari, with its highly recognizable L84AD8 license plate.



This sounds sad, but I never knew all of that. I mean I'm a guy, so I pretty much figured he was trying to frick her. Didn't know they had a relationship going. OJ claims during the month leading up to the murder that she was trying harder than ever to get him back.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:01 pm to
The Goldman family spun the returning sunglasses story because they didn't want it out because that somewhat taints the picture they wanted to tell - and the press ran with it...it was a better story that he was just a do-gooder and wasn't driving OJ's car around town and sleeping with his ex-wife.

He was still probably in the wrong place at the wrong time, I doubt OJ sought him out...but he wasn't in the wrong place because he was returning sunglasses to some stranger...that's weirdest misdirection I can't believe Joe public bought.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
18159 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:09 pm to
I don't know how much the public "bought" it...its just the focus was never on Goldman. He was the least popular of the 3, so his motives didn't really matter, sadly. He became a footnote, just like his dad said.
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