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re: The OFFICIAL Man of Steel Discussion and ***SPOILERS*** Thread
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:51 am to Ash Williams
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:51 am to Ash Williams
I doubt they want to take the risk of pissing of religious groups. They may have teetered the line for ultra conservative groups for the first MoS
They want to make as much money as possible so theyll make it as least offensive as possible
They want to make as much money as possible so theyll make it as least offensive as possible
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:12 pm to wildtigercat93
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I doubt they want to take the risk of pissing of religious groups. They may have teetered the line for ultra conservative groups for the first MoS
i agree
i just thought it would be cool
but it would leave a LOT of people upset
so i never expect to see it in any movie
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:12 pm to wildtigercat93
Red Letter Media's Half in the Bag LINK
Posted on 6/20/13 at 1:01 pm to kballa6
The only way I can see it being passable is if whomever was in that pod did escape somewhere and was frozen to death and someone found their body and so on and such.
But for right now, Clark is the only one who knew the pod was empty and he's the only one who knows where that ship is.
Maybe he remembers it and goes back up looking for a body, but meh, rather they just move on to Luthor and Brainiac.
But for right now, Clark is the only one who knew the pod was empty and he's the only one who knows where that ship is.
Maybe he remembers it and goes back up looking for a body, but meh, rather they just move on to Luthor and Brainiac.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 1:08 pm to kballa6
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Red Letter Media's Half in the Bag LINK
how long does it take in that video for them to actually start talking about the movie
Posted on 6/20/13 at 1:43 pm to Ash Williams
Couple of minutes. If you don't know RLM, you won't get the jokes.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 1:55 pm to kballa6
The movie was OK. I enjoyed parts of it but I thought the way they destroyed Metroplois was overkill. It really annoyed me how they beat the crap out of each other, tossing each other through buildings and other acts that would have killed a human and they felt little effect from all of this but in the end Zod dies with a simple snap of the neck? That was about as horrible of an ending as I have seen in a movie. I will give the movie about 3 out of 10. Going into the final fight scene, it was tracking with a solid 7.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 3:02 pm to Umber
Man of Steel was good, certainly not great. At times, it was headache-inducing during the ridiculous fight scenes - Yes, I thought they were ridiculous. And I'm thankful there were only 20 people occupying the huge city (New York?) Zod was terra-forming. Luckily, all those giant buildings that came tumbling down were empty. . . miraculously. It was silly how Superman was so concerned about saving every individual human in jeopardy, yet he didn't hesitate to throw bad guys through skyscrapers.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 3:05 pm to Umber
quote:I'll go with 6/10 as my final score. But I agree that, up until the final fight scene, it was a pretty solid 7.
I will give the movie about 3 out of 10. Going into the final fight scene, it was tracking with a solid 7.
Compared with, say, Batman Begins, which I'd give a 9/10. No other origin story comes close to BB. Yet.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 3:09 pm to Patrick_Bateman
I've skimmed this thread but didn't see this mentioned.
Did anyone else think Zod's "punishment" was odd given the circumstances? The planet is about to die and his punishment is he gets to live? They shoot him off into the phantom zone and hours later the planet explodes. I thought it was strange.
Did anyone else think Zod's "punishment" was odd given the circumstances? The planet is about to die and his punishment is he gets to live? They shoot him off into the phantom zone and hours later the planet explodes. I thought it was strange.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 3:28 pm to illuminatic
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Did anyone else think Zod's "punishment" was odd given the circumstances? The planet is about to die and his punishment is he gets to live? They shoot him off into the phantom zone and hours later the planet explodes. I thought it was strange.
Go back and read my posts on this. That's one reason why I keep saying the first half of the story seems forced/poorly edited. Little things like this just slid through without a second thought.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 3:47 pm to theunknownknight
The councilers seemed pretty ignorant about the fact that Krypton was about to explode
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:01 pm to Umber
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I enjoyed parts of it but I thought the way they destroyed Metroplois was overkill.
Sure...but for those familiar with various iterations of superman cartoons, it's par for the course. Metropolis and other cities get leveled on the reg...
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It really annoyed me how they beat the crap out of each other, tossing each other through buildings and other acts that would have killed a human and they felt little effect from all of this but in the end Zod dies with a simple snap of the neck? That was about as horrible of an ending as I have seen in a movie.
This is one I don't get. The buildings, like most other stuff there, are like cardboard to these guys...which is why the blow right through them basically unscathed. On the other hand, they are essentially on par physically with one another...and we've all seen people snap another person;s neck like that before in various movies. The fact that Supes could snap a Kryptonian's neck, but the same guy would not be harmed by flying through a building makes complete sense...in this universe.
At least you didn't complain that he killed Zod in this version (like others have bitched about)...forgetting what happened in the Superman II movie. Where do they think they went when they fell...fricking Narnia?
LINK
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:11 pm to wildtigercat93
The same ones that Jor El was discussing it's fate with when Zod busted in? They knew.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:19 pm to illuminatic
They shouldve but they brushed off Jor El. I mean they were still holding a trial for crimes against a doomed planet, so they were a little ignorant to it
And noone had ever had their home planet destroyed before, i doubt they knew that it would kick Zod out of the black hole
And noone had ever had their home planet destroyed before, i doubt they knew that it would kick Zod out of the black hole
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:25 pm to wildtigercat93
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They shouldve but they brushed off Jor El. I mean they were still holding a trial for crimes against a doomed planet, so they were a little ignorant to it
And noone had ever had their home planet destroyed before, i doubt they knew that it would kick Zod out of the black hole
The fact that you are having to defend one of the simplest parts of the initial plot proves the story was forced.
1. The planet was OBVIOUSLY in destruction mode as they were arguing.
2. They are having a criminal hearing that obviously takes time for Jor-el
3. Yet they instantly condemn Zod without really hearing him out?
The backstory was forced and over complicated. Plain and simple. I still liked the movie, but parts of this movie had Nolan's fingerprints all over it.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:28 pm to theunknownknight
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3. Yet they instantly condemn Zod without really hearing him out?
What was there to hear? They saw him kill one of their own
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:31 pm to theunknownknight
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The backstory was forced and over complicated. Plain and simple. I still liked the movie, but parts of this movie had Nolan's fingerprints all over it.
as soon as Zod was arrested, i thought
"What if Zod hadnt killed Jor El"
I could see a scene where they're like
"OK Jor El, you can take the codex to another planet to start our race anew"
"Oh, yea... about the codex... sooo... WOOPS!"
LAUGHTER
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:38 pm to wildtigercat93
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What was there to hear? They saw him kill one of their own
Exactly.
Zod RUSHED into a council who had only be shown to the audience as a council that sat on their butts and wanted to talk about things and hear things...and they didn't want to hear him? Why? Seemed forced. Why was he in a rush? Why did he snap? We are told, not SHOWN (typical Nolan refer to TDKR). Then Zod kills a person. Ok, so within 3 minutes he's in the "phantom zone"?
The first half of the movie is constant tell, tell, tell, tell with little showing.
They should have slowed the pace down, showing us the story, and splitting this movie into multiple movies if necessary.
That's EXACTLY what Donner had to do with this exact story line in Superman 1 and 2.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 6/20/13 at 6:03 pm to GeauxTigerTM
It was weird seeing supes kill someone
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