re: The Official DragonBall Thread....est 2012

Toriyama never plans ahead, his style has always been going by the seat of his pants. He has stated as much in interviews.

But the break should hopefully recharge the batteries. The last thing we need is him getting burnt out again and stepping away, thus giving us another GT.

Toyotaro could pretty much take over and I think most DB fans would still consider it "true" to the characters and canon. I still just can't believe that they're just going to end it after the tournament. There's sooo much new material and characters that they can thrive upon for years to come.

DBZ was totally tapped out when it finished. There really wasn't anywhere else's they could go. Super has been very very refreshing and ve grown to really enjoy its quirks. Hopefully it's kind of just a prolonged break for a couple years then it comes back again.

Maybe it's going to take a UI/Ultra Blue Vegito to take him out then go to the final 3 or 4 episodes with the Jiren finale,

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As for tonight's episode, I was pretty bummed that Gohan got taken out....and he didn't even go mystic form while doing it....kind of a big let down there. It's still just very weird that Hit completely kicked Dyspos arse yet it took miracles by Frieza AND Gogan to take him out.

Next week though looks incredible! But I don't know if I really understand what's going on. How is is Toppo essentially going to become a GoD. Was he hiding the power all along and how did he get it?? He had that same purple vibe as all the gods have when they power up. If he's on that level then hell, 17 nor Frieza stand a chance against him. It would essentially be like fighting Beerus.

Tonight's episodes was pretty incredible with the Toppo GoD stuff.....but I just couldn't help but feel like Gohan should've been in place of 17 in this episode...I like 17 and get he infinite energy thing and all...but damn, Gohan should still be in this ...you could even maybe get a new Gohan power up or semthing out of it.

Aside from that...I still don't understand how and why Toppo has GoD powers...I mean is Vermouth retiring? What the hell is going on here....

I do think though that Vegeta is going to fight Toppo and he is going to win...he may even tap into a little destruction-like power too...didn't Whis say once that Vegeta was a GoD candidate ..if Toppo can do it, why not Vegeta

As the tournament comes to an end, I'm curious where it all leads but there have been a few things that have frustrated me about the entirety of Super:

- I get that after the Cell saga Gohan was supposed to all but take over for Goku as the main protagonist of the show but didn't because of backlash in Japan and, in response, the writers basically had to find some way for him to be there but not overshadow Goku for the Buu saga. Fine, whatever. But Super was totally an opportunity for Gohan to reemerge as Goku's son: just as powerful but with the most intelligence of anyone on the show. Just a lot of wasted potential with that character.

- What the frick was the point of keeping Buu around? If Gohan has been a wasted character, I have no idea what to say about the way Majinn Buu, one of the most powerful villains ever faced in the series before turning good, has almost literally slept through the entire show. Cool, bring back Android 17 but I would have much rather watched Buu fight in this tournament than the Androids or Tien.

Roshi had some nostalgic appeal but it felt like they were trying to pass off Tien like he was Piccolo. Piccolo at least was the strongest Z fighter at one point during the Android sage. Tien has never been that. It's like they made a conscious decision to include Tien as cannon fodder rather than use Buu because Universe 6 would be too strong at that point

I mean, universe 6, 7, and 11 seem like they are the only 3 universes worth a damn in the whole tournament. Look at the stats:

u7 - 52 fighters eliminated
U6 - 12 fighters eliminated
all other universes combined - 8 fighters eliminated


Would Buu have really put anymore focus on 7 than we already have?

hmm...Gohan was eliminated by Freiza and 18 and Roshi kind of sacrificed themselves.

But yeah that is the biggest disappointment in this whole saga. What is the point in introducing 12 universes if you are only going to focus on 3 and make everyone else just filler.

This could have easily been a 4 universe tournament and most of the fleshed out ideas could have still been in there.

well, Jiren could obviously mop the floor with all 4 fighters right now...but did Frieza resurface from that last blast?

Could you imagine Jiren knocking out the other 3 with like 30 seconds to spare then fails to find Freiza's unconscious body in the wreckage? (Can't just destroy everything for fear of getting eliminated)

It is almost like they made it a point not to show Frieza at the end.

or UI Gogeta....

Also, anyone notice they said only 4 minutes remaining?

Over/under on how many episodes this takes.

I say 2.5 episodes easily. No way they end the tournament on the next episode. So next is No.17 getting eliminated, then Goku/Vegeta pull out their trump card, followed by the finale.

I wouldn't be surprised if this gets more ridiculous than Freiza's 5 minutes before Namek explodes.