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re: The Office: Jim is a Jerk

Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:13 pm to
I'd have fought everyone there except creed
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38427 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 3:14 pm to
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I'd have fought everyone there except creed


Don't fight him on Halloween for sure.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:24 pm to
Yeah, Jim's a jerk. His arch-nemesis Dwight is also a jerk. That's why he can get away with some of the cruel pranks he pulls, comedically-speaking. Every fricking person on that show was a jerk. It's like "Seinfeld" -- you'd hate these people in real life, but on TV, they're comedy gold. "The Office" is easily one of the most awkward and hilarious shows ever, and if you stop to think about how this would play out at a real company, you completely lose the thread of humor. You just have to sit back and suspend disbelief, because, man, these are some awful human beings.

You can always watch "Parks & Recreation." Same basic formula, but not quite as cringe-inducing when thinking about most of the characters as existing IRL.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:54 pm to
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It's like the rewatch of parks and rec. Leslie Knope is a manipulative sociopath with little to no redeeming qualities - i mean that was pretty obvious on the first watch but going into it with that knowledge makes you hate her even more on the rewatch. Why the other characters like her so much is beyond me.


Yeah, I never liked Leslie Nope. Agree with what you said.

And yes, Jim was not a good guy.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:58 pm to
Jim was terrified of Roy. Schrute had to bail his wimpy arse out. Dwight was clearly the alpha of the office. (Creed probably could have been, but he kept to his own thing)
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60638 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:46 pm to
Dwight was way more alpha than Jim.

He owned and operated a 40 acre beet farm that was worth a small fortune.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78324 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:52 pm to
The Jim and Pam subplot ruined the show for the first couple seasons. Seasons 3-4 are the best.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97010 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:53 pm to
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That's a solid description IMO.

I did like Jim, but he definitely was a smug punk a lot of times. And he and Pam were definitely better than everybody else in the office on a lot of occasions and that got super annoying


Kind of like a bed bug.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60638 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:38 pm to
they were also the least funny characters, but I guess the show needed a few characters that at least somewhat represented normalcy.
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:39 pm to
I'd say Jim is a misunderstood jerk, because on many occasions, he'd offer an olive branch to someone who was on the verge of humiliating him/herself, Michael in particular. For all of Jim's jerk-arse qualities, no one else would've stepped up like that, so I cut him a little slack...
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78324 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:49 pm to
He isn’t misunderstood. Jim was a jerk.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
12139 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:00 pm to
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The Jim and Pam subplot ruined the show for the first couple seasons. 


That story was the best thing about them. They became insufferable once they became an item.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:03 pm to
I've probably seen 6 episodes total of this show, but saw the entire British original and the Jim character is and alway was a jerk who felt he was too good to be working at the office he was at, yet never had the stones or fortitude to quit and find his 'true calling.'

At least everyone else was amusing and nice. He and the receptionist character were alway shite heel characters who the show revolved around, yet the heart and soul of both shows was always and always will be the David Brent/Michael Scott character. Without him, the entire show is just miserable people being miserable every episode.

Brent and Scott brought sweetness and innocence to and unsweet and uninnocent setting. That's why the shows work.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
12139 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:07 pm to
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Jim is a misunderstood jerk, because on many occasions, he'd offer an olive branch to someone who was on the verge of humiliating him/herself, Michael in particular. 

Jim let Michael fall into the koi pond.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
12265 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:23 pm to
Jeez I was about to reply to this thread before I realized I already did 6 years ago. I feel old
Posted by SPEEDY
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88180 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:43 pm to
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Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
88180 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:47 pm to
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Jim always came across as that guy in high school who is a smug wise-cracker but gets average grades and is a backup guard on the basketball team who never really gets in the game so cracks jokes about the real players on the bench.


Obviously sat the bench behind Stanley, who was clearly a superior ball handler

Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9794 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 11:14 pm to
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Roy works hard in an office warehouse and has a fiancee that works as a receptionist. Jim, a salesman, goes out of his way to flirt with Roy's fiancee all day. Roy overlooks it and is happy she has a friend


There is some truth to that, but Roy was kind of an arse to Pam, which is a big reason why she ended up falling for Jim.

But overall, yes. Jim and Pam are pretty horrible people.
Posted by McGruff21
Member since Aug 2023
372 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:20 am to
The show would have been better if Jim had a long term relationship with Karen, then eventually made his way back to Pam by the final seasons. Putting them together so early killed a lot of comedic potential bc together they are both boring. They were far funnier interesting characters apart from each other playing the straight man to others hijinx.

And yes Jim is an a-hole. He made a move on another man’s fiancé. And Pam is a cheating bitchy shrew of a woman trying to come off as girl next door.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84666 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:47 am to
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