re: The Odyssey - Movie Discussion - Spoilers

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Even if she was born a man it’s still stupid casting. She is tiny and frail and looks like half a tard. You don’t cast that to portray a top notch soldier.

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Casting a woman as a man is stupid, but her role is literally a feeble worthless soldier who is loyal to the end.

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I’d describe it as “his vision of Athena took the form of the murdered priestess.”

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sure

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Matt Damon was awesome. Easily his best performance since Good Will Hunting. I really liked Tom Holland as Telemachus and Anne Hathaway as Penelope.

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I think Damon did well acting wise, but the actual portrayal of Odysseus was horrid. They got his character so unbelievably wrong.

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I really liked Tom Holland as Telemachus and Anne Hathaway as Penelope

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Holland did very well and Hathaway obviously acted very well how they decided to handle her role, but again got her character and the dynamic with Telemachus completely wrong. Her diatribe about deserving the crown was so out of character for her and just cringe.

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Especially when Calypso gives the figurine of Athena back to Odysseus. And I also really loved the moment toward the end where Odysseus strings the bow and plucks it. That sly smile Penelope gives without even looking back was pretty awesome.

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One of my least favorite changes from the original story. Another of multiple times they really fundamentally changed the female characters in the movie and not for the better.

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There's a lot of fake news out there surrounding Elliot Page's character. Yeah, she's playing a dude in the film but she isn't a stand in for Achilles

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Eh, while not a direct stand in, her character is a direct replacement for Achilles most central part in the entire story, which is another aspect that completely cheapened the Calypso arc. That is my bigger gripe with the casting & use, ultimately the execution was poor and it was used to strip out better parts of the story.

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Lupita Nyong'o is barely in the film and Jon Bernthal's Menelaus even kind of sneeringly introduces her as "the face that launched a thousand ships," before showing Telemachus the scarred left side of her face and saying, "Now, it wouldn't launch five hundred."

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Another change not for the better. Their relationship was good once they returned to Sparta. They basically made it seem like Helen was not being held captive after the war.


ETA: I think to summarize my main gripe with the film (which as I said in my first post I thought overall was a solid movie so by no means saying it is a bad film) is that I don't know if any change, ommission, or modernization from the original story actually improved the story. They all cheapened the hero's journey IMO.

For sure an understatement. Quite a few changes, some of them necessary though. I left my review in the OP.

O maybe he is, I didn't realize that.

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I left my review in the OP.

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Outstanding review

I wish I could put my thoughts into words like that

It is going to make beaucoups of revenue.

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I have an idea for a fantasy novel in my head and the Mrs. tells me I should write it but I don't think I'm smart enough Don't want to write it and then someone read it and be like wtf is this, this is the worst thing I've ever read in my life.

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But what if they like it?

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I'm not saying I agree with the casting (I personally wouldn't have cast her in the role), I'm simply saying it's not that big of a deal. She's barely in the film. Maybe seven minutes of screentime total.

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It was such a stupid decision to put Page, Lupita, and Travis Scott in this movie. They are mostly irrelevant characters and Nolan created a PR shitstorm for nothing and cost the movie millions.

He must've never heard "theres no such thing as bad publicity".

And if the people not buying tickets arent buying them based off lies like "A tranny playing the greatest warrior that ever lived" I dont see how Nolan could've prevented that anyway.