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The myth that there are no original movies.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:29 pm
It’s bullshite.
I listen to a podcast that discusses ever new movie released to theaters in Los Angles. It’s up to 35 movies a week being released.
IMBD has almost 5000 movies being released in 2019. I just spent an hour watching trailers and there’s a bunch of original movies.
I listen to a podcast that discusses ever new movie released to theaters in Los Angles. It’s up to 35 movies a week being released.
IMBD has almost 5000 movies being released in 2019. I just spent an hour watching trailers and there’s a bunch of original movies.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:35 pm to athenslife101
That's cool and all...but when your local Cinema chain is showing Avengers on 3 different screens...
Sort of hard to see these original movies when they aren't bought by your local chain or last a week in the theaters.
I remember Hell or High Water was in the Cinema for about two weeks where I live...the other 8 screens were reserved for multiple showings of comic-book movies in the two largest screens and 3 cartoons.
And since these movies aren't in movie theaters, they get no buzz and you have to find out about them long after the fact on DVD.
Sort of hard to see these original movies when they aren't bought by your local chain or last a week in the theaters.
I remember Hell or High Water was in the Cinema for about two weeks where I live...the other 8 screens were reserved for multiple showings of comic-book movies in the two largest screens and 3 cartoons.
And since these movies aren't in movie theaters, they get no buzz and you have to find out about them long after the fact on DVD.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:37 pm to kciDAtaE
Easy. January 4th has more than 3.
State Like Sleep
Rust Creek
Escape Room
State Like Sleep
Rust Creek
Escape Room
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:38 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
That is a failure of a business though. And that’s why movie theaters are doing bad financially
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:48 pm to athenslife101
I've got a huge multiplex that was built near me with a new shopping center about 4-5 years ago. Feels a lot like a throwback to the days when movies were events and going to the theater was special.
They do a good job of showing every shitty "Jesus cures atheist's evil heart" movie that comes out, and they dedicate 6-8 of their 10 screens to superhero movies and kids cartoons.
Artsy, critically well-regarded movies for adults get 1 screen, 3-4 showtimes, 2 weeks max (usually less). Many of them simply never play here at all.
I think it's what they have to do to stay profitable. The moviegoing public, certainly around here anyway, isn't clamoring to see art. They want an air conditioned room to take their kids in the summer.
They do a good job of showing every shitty "Jesus cures atheist's evil heart" movie that comes out, and they dedicate 6-8 of their 10 screens to superhero movies and kids cartoons.
Artsy, critically well-regarded movies for adults get 1 screen, 3-4 showtimes, 2 weeks max (usually less). Many of them simply never play here at all.
I think it's what they have to do to stay profitable. The moviegoing public, certainly around here anyway, isn't clamoring to see art. They want an air conditioned room to take their kids in the summer.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:57 pm to Muthsera
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The moviegoing public, certainly around here anyway, isn't clamoring to see art.
That is true around the country. Superhero movies get half the screens at every theater because that's what people want to see.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:59 pm to athenslife101
Most of us don’t live in Los Angeles
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:01 pm to Brosef Stalin
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The moviegoing public, certainly around here anyway, isn't clamoring to see art.
That is true around the country. Superhero movies get half the screens at every theater because that's what people want to see.
This. If people were spending more money to see the smaller, more original movies they would be showing them more often. Pretty simple
But if you want to see a certain movie, you can. You’ll just have less showtimes to choose from. I can’t really think of many movies I’ve wanted to see that I couldn’t because it wasn’t showing anywhere in BR
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:33 pm to athenslife101
Original movies are being made. It’s just nobody’s coming out to watch them. Out of the 20 highest grossing box office movies this year, only four aren’t part of a franchise, based off a comic book series, or remakes. By contrast, only three of the 20 highest grossing box office movies from 1990 were part of a franchise or remakes. It’s a different world nowadays.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:55 pm to Bench McElroy
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Original movies are being made. It’s just nobody’s coming out to watch them.
Where? Coming out where?
Where do I watch these movies? They aren't in the theaters by and large. The movie going public isn't even given an option these days. It's superhero movie or cartoon or stay at home and watch Netflix.
This isn't the horse leading the way, this is Hollywood putting the cart before the horse and telling us what to watch.
Of the top 20 films at the box office last decade, only one movie was not based on a past film or tv show (remake/sequel), or an adaptation of an established property (be it a comic, book, play, toy…etc).
And it was a cartoon...Finding Nemo.
Out of the top 50 grossing films of this past decade, there were only 9 movies based on original properties...and 7 of them were Cartoons. And five of those nine films were created by Pixar Animation Studios.
And it's only gotten worse this decade. Reboots, remakes, sequels, everything is a franchise now.
If there was original content today, I'd be going to the theaters more than twice a year.
I used to go all the time in the 80's and 90's.
Now I just wait for some gem on DVD or Amazon Prime to pop-up. Amazon and Netflix have some original content. Major studios have abandoned that working model a long time ago.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:10 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Where? Coming out where?
The Manship.
The Louisiana International Film Festival in April.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:28 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Where do I watch these movies? They aren't in the theaters by and large. The movie going public isn't even given an option these days. It's superhero movie or cartoon or stay at home and watch Netflix.
Id say I go to the theater a good bit more than the average person and very rarely am I seeing a superhero, cartoon, or remake. It’s really not that hard unless someone lives in a very remote little town
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This isn't the horse leading the way, this is Hollywood putting the cart before the horse and telling us what to watch.
And if that’s the case, then I give Hollywood props for being smart enough to realize the average person will just throw their money at all those movies. And it will keep happening as long as people fill the theaters to see Spider Man 7
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:46 pm to jg8623
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Spider Man 7
That’s the one I’ve really been waiting for
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:21 am to jg8623
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And it will keep happening as long as people fill the theaters to see Spider Man 7
But people filled the theaters to see The Sound of Music (#3 highest grossing movie of all-time adjusted for inflation) E.T. #4 adjusted for inflation, Titanic #5 adjusted for inflation (I wonder if even Titanic could get made in today's Hollywood culture - they'd say, ah...that shite won't make no money. Give me more Spiderman.)
Jaws, #7 adjusted for inflation.
Has the movie-going public changed so much that fricking Jaws wouldn't be a hit today...Hollywood says yes ...maybe Hollywood isn't giving us the option of Jaws...maybe Hollywood is just giving us the same movies over and over and over again and they make a shite ton of money because that's all there is...captive audience of parents who will take their kids to see anything so they stop bugging them on a weekend.
Superhero movie begats superhero movie begats superhero movie isn't totally purely public demand driven as you think.
People like to see movies, it's the only thing showing. So it justifies itself by exclusion of other films.
Directors have consantly said recently that - good movies can still be made and they'd make money but Hollywood isn't interested. They want franchises because they sell themselves, are easy to make and have a built-in audience.
It's not as you maybe were suggesting that audiences rejected the above list I posted and so Hollywood was forced to go to superhero and cartoon movies to make money.
Hollywood simply rejected the above overnight and went to superhero and cartoon movies and said, hey...they make money.
Well a lot of original films can make a shite ton of money too.
But Hollywood isn't willing to take any risk. So it's cookie-cutter bland same ol' shite in every movie.
It's the model of the car companies. Cars used to be cool in the 50's - every car company had their own design. Then the Ford Pinto exploded on impact from a rear-end collision based on a new design.
And they got sued and almost bankrupted Ford.
So now every car company ensures they make everything to "industry standard" - every car company all copy each other by design and their designs and produce the same looking cars. Just like Hollywood studios now.
Enter the superhero movie and competing Hollywood studios.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 12:25 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:19 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Another problem is that the box office is international now. When a script gets plopped down on a Studio executive's desk his first question now is going to be "will people in China go see this?"
Posted on 12/10/18 at 5:06 am to athenslife101
I like going to movies and I have not had one pique my interest at all since the Queen movie and that was the first of November.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 5:53 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Where? Coming out where?
Where do I watch these movies? They aren't in the theaters by and large. The movie going public isn't even given an option these days
Exactly right. They aren’t advertised so we don’t even know they exist.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 6:24 am to athenslife101
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I listen to a podcast that discusses ever new movie released to theaters in Los Angles
Why?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 6:24 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Jaws, #7 adjusted for inflation.
Has the movie-going public changed so much that fricking Jaws wouldn't be a hit today
I'm mostly on board with your point, but Jaws is an adaptation of a best selling novel (the film rights were purchased before release) and not an "original idea".
The only problem with adaptations these days is that so few people read new book releases (tweens and middle aged women), so the few reliable markets get all the adaptations.
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