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re: The Last Jedi - The De-Feminized Cut
Posted on 6/9/18 at 12:47 am to bamafan1001
Posted on 6/9/18 at 12:47 am to bamafan1001
quote:Han says "we're coming out of hyperspace" a couple times, which I always interpreted as some sort of portable wormhole technology.
They are clearly going faster than light speed(as in the speed of light). Even light speed wouldn’t come close to letting you just zip around a galaxy. If a ship was able to accelerate that fast, everyone on board would die instantly. The science has always been iffy...its one of those things were we just turn your brain off and your imagination on. To me it was implied the ships were creating/using some kind of space/time portal to travel these distances.
The cockpit views (at least in the OT) seems to suggest something along those lines.
I presumed the dangers he suggested to Luke upon leaving Tatooine weren't DURING hyperspace travel, it was to ensure they didn't EXIT hyperspace in a bad location, and that the ship would be traveling very fast real-time when entering/exiting.
I suppose you COULD theoretically use such a device as a weapon by projecting your hyperspace entry portal into another, large ship such as Snoke's (which in theory would disintegrate the portion the wormhole would open into), or also plot the exit point directly inside a ship.
Seems like projecting the entry point would be the easier thing to do on the fly- it should be a set distance directly in front of your own ship, opening for a brief but established timeframe, with the automated synchronized burst from your standard engines to propel you into that opening.
Such an action would then be consistent with what we saw in TLJ (don't know about Solo, haven't seen it). You turn your ship to face Snoke's (which is a big target), fire up the hyperdrive engines, and then "make the jump" when you close to a range where your hyperspace portal opens inside Snoke's ship. I'm guessing that would rip apart any matter where the wormhole opens, causing a massive explosion (and destroying the ship that "leaps" into that blast too).
It wouldn't be a practical weapon because... let's speculate you can't project the hyperspace opening very far away. That would make it an expensive, complex, short-range option, that COULD be shot down before getting to range, and that would always be a suicide to try.
Sure, you COULD use a large craft do do damage, but you can also load a large craft with heavy weaponry that can do more damage... and be reused afterwards.
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Posted on 6/9/18 at 12:50 am to Scruffy
quote:She was just there to introduce transgenders into SW
Holdo - useless
Posted on 6/9/18 at 12:52 am to Roaad
The holdo poe plot was waaaay worse than canto bight
Posted on 6/9/18 at 12:52 am to Breesus
quote:Harvey Weinstein has fewer victims than Rian
I'd rank them:
Eveyone else
Harvey Weinstein
Rian Johnson
Posted on 6/9/18 at 12:58 am to MF Doom
quote:Holdo was a unbroken chain of eyeroll moments.
The holdo poe plot was waaaay worse than canto bight
Not just with Poe, all of her scenes.
She is just the worst
Asian chick is just a long chain of who cares, ending with an eyeroll
Jar Jar>Rose>Holdo
Posted on 6/9/18 at 1:11 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
quote:
Let me get this straight, you believe a ship with mass traveling at light speed is not a weapon? I do understand that it could have been used in the manner you are speaking but it wasn't. Are we to expect that it couldn't happen given the technology already available and just needed somebody to think about it? Maybe it was more "efficient" to create a weapon instead of using huge ships as weapons.
In all fairness, it doesn’t even have to be something that is the “mass of a ship”. If you can get anything with any mass moving at the speed of light, you’ve got yourself one powerful arse weapon.
You are right. It is kind of stupid to think they have this technology and never once thought to weaponize it in a huge space battle between two opposing factions.
I say this and I actually didn’t mind TLJ. Was it a great movie that left me felling “holy shite! I got to see that over and over again”? No. But I don’t go into a movie with that expectation. If I see a movie and I get that reaction, great. But if not, my next assessment comes from the question “was I at least entertained for the period of time I was watching”. And the answer to that question in regards to TLJ is, yes. I was at least mostly entertained by it. Was it the Star Wars movie I would have chosen to make? No. Personally I think Disney fricked up royally by eliminating the expanded universe and not going with the already great story of the Jedi Academy trilogy.
My thoughts behind this new trilogy and subsequently the prequel trilogy is that they are one persons “interpretation” of the events that lead to and followed the original trilogy. In essence, they got some shite right about it and they got soneshit wrong about it.
Posted on 6/9/18 at 11:47 am to Scoob
quote:
It wouldn't be a practical weapon because... let's speculate you can't project the hyperspace opening very far away. That would make it an expensive, complex, short-range option, that COULD be shot down before getting to range, and that would always be a suicide to try.
The First Order Dreadnought Captain was lining up his shot and didn't think that his target would possibly be lining up a Kamikaze run.
Think of it like an AT-4 (anti-tank weapon). The round takes 35 yards to arm itself. While at the speed it travels, you can punch a hole in a tank at close range, the round wont detonate unless it travels 35 yards first.
At the speed the ship was travelling at time of impact, the ship basically disintegrated, taking everything in its path with it.
Posted on 6/9/18 at 1:32 pm to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
But that would have been to close to what the fans wanted!!!
Rian doesnt play that way
Rian doesnt play that way
Posted on 6/9/18 at 3:36 pm to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Idiots like this make it easy for Kathleeen Kennedy and Rian to say the TLJ critics are just mysogynists and dismiss the MANY legitimate criticisms of that movie.
Posted on 6/9/18 at 7:39 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Yeah.
You could write a thesis on what's wrong with that movie and not even touch the over-the-top feminism.
The prequels were far better.
You could write a thesis on what's wrong with that movie and not even touch the over-the-top feminism.
The prequels were far better.
Posted on 6/9/18 at 9:47 pm to wadewilson
quote:The prequels contained potentially interesting information about the characters and conflict. The sequels, on the other hand... in retrospect we should have expected a letdown.
You could write a thesis on what's wrong with that movie and not even touch the over-the-top feminism.
The prequels were far better.
Take Lord Of The Rings: most important event/conflict in the history of Middle Earth. Sauron wasn't the first or biggest Dark Lord, but he created a terrible solution. In order to defeat him, the Elves had to sacrifice their presence in civilization. It was the end of an era. The Hobbit was a prequel, that was made into films that set the stage. The Amazon series will be a prequel, further setting the stage.
LOTR= Star Wars OT.
Nobody wants to see Middle Earth afterwards, without Sauron, the Elves, the Orcs as a united force, without Wizards and magic. Nobody wants to see Old Aragorn tottering around starting skirmishes with the Easterlings over territory, or various petty feuds and doubts cast as to whether the Elves etc ever existed. We're done with that tale.
Same applies to Star Wars. Luke redeemed Vader, and brought about the end of the Empire and more importantly the Sith. There is no organized Jedi, just Luke winging it off random teachings from a couple ghosts. Like Aragorn, our Star Wars heroes deserved to live happily ever after. I don't want Han and Leia divorcing, don't want Luke being a bitter hermit, don't want the Solo kid being an emo brat that kills his dad (one of the true heroes of the galaxy). All of that shite is just wrong. It minimizes their accomplishment.
Cast new characters and tell tales that mesh, not some set before the OT and some set 40 years later.
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