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re: The Flash Season One Thread

Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:15 pm to
The DNA at the scene of Barry's mother's murder did not match that of current Dr Wells.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:17 pm to
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that is why it is not possible in real life


pffft, says the simpleton
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:18 pm to
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The DNA at the scene of Barry's mother's murder did not match that of current Dr Wells.


And current Dr Wells was Thawne. Who left DNA at the murder scene.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:19 pm to
Too much obsessing over the science.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:20 pm to
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Too much obsessing over the science.


I agree but I totally got VA on that one.

You hear me VA??! I got you!!
Posted by Darkknight
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:33 pm to
Nothing pertaining to Dr. Wells was at the crime scene. Thawne did not transfer/duplicate Wells' DNA until after he killed Barry's mom.

So the blood at the crime scene was Thawne's, which present day STAR labs and company did not have.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:36 pm to
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Movie/TV board should have a time travel disclaimer that can be easily input into any and all threads that deal with the issue of time travel.


:mindfrick:
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:42 pm to
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So the blood at the crime scene was Thawne's, which present day STAR labs and company did not have.


Which, you would think, would get Barry's dad a new trial.

Discovery of a third party's blood at a murder scene? You'd think that would give you a reasonable doubt.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:49 pm to
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So the blood at the crime scene was Thawne's, which present day STAR labs and company did not have.

Which, you would think, would get Barry's dad a new trial.

Discovery of a third party's blood at a murder scene? You'd think that would give you a reasonable doubt.


I smell another spinoff.

Law & Order: DCU
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:56 pm to
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And current Dr Wells was Thawne. Who left DNA at the murder scene.


Exactly. Cisco said there was no match, in any way, to Wells' DNA from the blood at the crime scene. So, Wells' DNA has no traces of Thawne's DNA in it. Which means Thawne's DNA was retrofitted when he became Wells. That would be fine if Thawne's powers were like those when he was first written. Only obtainable while he is wearing the suit. Would also make sense as to why he had the tachion contraption on the suit itself.

Except for 2 things. He was charging himself in the chair, and he used hyper speed without the suit.

And get over us talking about the science brosef. This is fun for me dagnabbit, I like decyphering the undecypherable. It's why I have been contemplating how to build a powered suit of armor, Halo style. Except instead of batteries, it's energy source would be a vast network of Tesla coils. Which I also think is the answer to electric cars. The power is constantly sustainable through the nuclear power grid. No need to add the weight of batteries, or the 18 hours of charging for 225 miles of range...etc. The initial logistics would be crazy, but I think it's an answer no one has looked at.


Edit: When Cisco looked at Thawne's blood from the crime scene. Wouldn't he have seen the same changes in his blood, that are present in Barry's? I can't remember if he did or not. Time to go back and watch.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 4:03 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:14 pm to
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Edit: When Cisco looked at Thawne's blood from the crime scene. Wouldn't he have seen the same changes in his blood, that are present in Barry's? I can't remember if he did or not. Time to go back and watch.

I'm pretty sure the only change in Barry's blood was that it was that it had the content of an adult's blood. The DNA was unchanged
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:29 pm to
I meant the changes in his blood from the particle accelerator. The, whatever they are(can't remember the name right now), things in his blood that allow him to connect to the speed force. They should have been present in Thawne's blood. I remember Cisco definitively saying there were two speedstwrs there that night. I can't remember if that was from just the pictures, or if Thawne's blood did show the same changes as Barry's to allow him connection with the speed force.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:38 pm to
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The DNA at the scene of Barry's mother's murder did not match that of current Dr Wells.

I think it's a pretty easily accepted plot hole that Wells(thawne) just never gave blood samples after taking over the real Wells. Or at least he never used his own blood.
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 5:41 pm to
So now that Eobard Thawne never existed does that mean that they can bring the real Harrison Wells into the show next season or does everything that Thawne did up to this point stay done?
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 5:51 pm to
LINK

pretty good on article on everything about how the time travel cant and wont make sense but its fun television.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 5:54 pm to
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So now that Eobard Thawne never existed does that mean that they can bring the real Harrison Wells into the show next season or does everything that Thawne did up to this point stay done?


Since nothing changed, I'd say everything remains the same including the death of the real Wells.

I'm assuming the Wells we'll see next season will be from Earth 2.
Posted by wartiger2004
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 6:19 pm to
Awesome finale.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 7:48 pm to
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Nothing pertaining to Dr. Wells was at the crime scene. Thawne did not transfer/duplicate Wells' DNA until after he killed Barry's mom.

So the blood at the crime scene was Thawne's, which present day STAR labs and company did not have.


yea that seemed somewhat evident at the time of the flashback kill seen with the tire strips..

but am I the only one who would have been asking the Gideon computer a few more questions? i know it had a lot of future info that probably should remain unknown, but there were certainly some questions worth asking it.

also if starlabs was built by the thawn-wells and he wound up never existing, wouldn't everything he had built disappear too?
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 7:51 pm
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:09 pm to
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also if starlabs was built by the thawn-wells and he wound up never existing, wouldn't everything he had built disappear too?

Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:12 pm to
What part of "don't try and figure out time travel" do people not understand. ...
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