re: the ending of Shutter Island - discussion (SPOILERS)

I think yall might be on to something.

Remember after he says the line about living as a monster and he's walkin away goin to have his lebotomy, Ruffalo yells "teddy!" and dicaprio doesn't turn around. Well if he really thought he was teddy, then he might turn around.

That could be the biggest twist of all!! frick! I'm gonna have to go see it again!

Liked it, but just as a pet peeve, I hate movies where the director/script lets the viewer "make the ending for himself"

Seems like a cop out, been a second since I read the novel but I remember it being a lot more clear cut on the ending

Ryno,

you think you will go see it again?

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it is my understanding that when he said... "is it better to die a good man than to live as a monster" or whatever.... that he was aware of who he was and what he had done, but chose to have the lobotomy. is this what we are meant to think?

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that's the way i took it as well.

Just got back from seeing the film. Thought it was outstanding.

Like Ryno, and a few others, I was expecting the double twist at the end. I was definitely satisfied with the ending, even though I kind of knew what was going to occur. Someone spoiled it for me a few days ago, telling me to think "Metal Gear Solid 2" - so, I went into the film expecting "Teddy" to be the victim of a simulation.

Which is what ultimately occurred.

However, even at the end, I was still completely enthralled. The film does a great job at the end of throwing you into Teddy's shoes - you don't know what to believe, and are trying to make sense of everything, as is Teddy (or Andrew...).

One question I do have though - did the film ever provide a reason why his wife drowned their 3 kids, other than the fact that she had a severe mental illness (Bipolar Disorder...)?

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Remember after he says the line about living as a monster and he's walkin away goin to have his lebotomy, Ruffalo yells "teddy!" and dicaprio doesn't turn around. Well if he really thought he was teddy, then he might turn around.

That could be the biggest twist of all!! frick! I'm gonna have to go see it again!

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"Is it better to die a good man, or live as a monster? "

...and add that to Dr. Shian's reaction, "TEDDY?!"

I didn't think there was any question that he wasn't crazy and finally let Delores go. She was the one that "kept the tape running over and over." But he knew that he wasn't leaving the island. He was there for murder. Remember, the whole idea of the dr's letting him have the run of the place for 2 days was to prove that their project/theories would work. Not for him to go anywhere. He was with the criminally insane on an island. You're basically living like a monster. He knows he's a good man.

I also thought the line "they're not smarter than us, Chuck." was interesting.

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Dr. Cawley (Ben Kingsley) said, "why all wet baby?" in a creepy kind of homo way when Teddy busts into the top of the lighthouse. What was up with that?

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I thought it was funny

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Or did his wife kill the kids and Leo kill her like in the flashback?

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this one

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Did the ending surprise you?

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Well, I had read the book several years back.

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Did you think he was going to end up being Teddy or Andrew?

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I don't think I ever really decided whether he was one character or the other. With MPD, one is essentially both, but not at the same time.

I liked it but I don't like the way they described the movie through the previews. I never read the book or knew about it before so I thought it was going to be like a horror kinda movie.

I couldn't remember at the end was he actually a ww2 vet or was that apart of his fake imagination.