re: The Days of Great Movies Are Gone With the Wind

I've watched La La Land several times. OF course, I love Jazz and Paris so that hooks me every time, plus the music is pretty good.

The opening scene of LaLaLand made me quit.

I think the point is about Best Picture winners and nominees used to fall more towards films that were both critically and financially successful and there in laid the metrics for rewatchability.

Now the rewatchable movies are less grand and the nominees are falling more towards literal who's.

I enjoyed the shape of water. But it's audience was del Toro fans, classic horror sci-fi fans, and critics. That's a narrow narrow rewatch group.

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But I disagree that great and rewatchable movies aren’t made anymore

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Yeah, quite a few sprang to mind when he asked that question. Great films are still being made, it's just the virtue signaling ones and glorification of Hollywood are the ones that win these days.

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otherwise, the list is generally free of shameless Oscar-bait.

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Call Me By Your Name doesn't reek to you as Oscar bait? Neither does Get Out?

But you said they have no political messages. That just isn't true at all.

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Neither does Get Out?

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I seriously doubt anyone was thinking "this will get us Oscar nominations" when making Get Out. It's a low budget satirical horror film for crying out loud.

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First, people didn't rewatch movies until the late 80s because, and this is important, WE frickING COULDN'T. VCR's didn't become commonplace until the late 80s, so the only way to rewatch a movie was to wait for it to come back on TV. And even then, you only had a few tapes.

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I don't know man... HBO/ Cinemax and Showtime/ TMC were the big movie deliveries before VHS was prominent. Feels like I watched Raiders 100x on the channels.

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You rewatched the same movie over and over out of necessity not precisely love.

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Chariots of Fire/ Annie Hall is when we powered up the Atari.

Also I think people are missing the point in context of the big budget films. I wouldn't consider Hell and High Water/ No Country as big budget films.

I'm not sure how he couldn't have been thinking about it when nearly all the wealthy people are shown to be stuffy horrible cowardly people while the few rich who are nice are either young (Rose) or new money (Margaret Brown) while nearly all the poor are accepting, fun loving, and brave. Billy Zane's character is a caricature of the stereotypical evil British lord who considers himself better than simply b/c of his breeding and wealth. The movie even explicitly shows callous crew members and wealthy passengers leaving the poor passengers behind to die.



But all well, agree to disagree.

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I'm not sure how he couldn't have been thinking about it when nearly all the wealthy people are shown to be stuffy horrible cowardly people

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Oh, really? Other than Cal (a fictional character) what other first class passengers were cowardly? The Nearer My God To Thee montage showed many first class passengers bravely accepting their fate.