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The Days of Great Movies Are Gone With the Wind
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:52 pm
From Paul Bois of Daily Wire:
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Once upon a time in Hollywood, a movie could win the Oscar for Best Picture and be culturally popular at the same time. Movies like "Titanic," "Braveheart," "Ben-Hur," "Forest Gump," and "The Godfather" come to mind.
And those are just the winners. Beyond that, there exists a whole archive of popular films that have enjoyed the privilege of simply being nominated for Best Picture, some of which have surpassed the legacies of the victors. "Star Wars" lost to "Annie Hall." "Raiders of the Lost Ark" lost to "Chariots of Fire." "E.T." lost to "Gandhi." "Pulp Fiction" lost to "Forest Gump." The list goes on.
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Let's take a show of hands, shall we? Since 2006, when Scorsese's "The Departed" took home the Oscar for Best Picture, can anyone name a single movie they have repeatedly watched? The kind of movie that holds the attention from start to finish once every few years? I can already guess them: all Christopher Nolan movies and maybe a few from Quentin Tarantino or David Fincher or David O. Russell, all of whom entered the film industry in the early or late-'90s before the industry moved to the franchise business model.
Has anyone actually given a second viewing to Best Picture winners like "The Artist" from 2011? Or "Argo" from 2012? Or "Spotlight" from 2015? What about the movies that lost? "The Theory of Everything," anyone? "Her," anyone? "La La Land," anyone?
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While the Marvel films certainly dazzle the senses for 2-plus hours, few people can argue leaving a Marvel movie with the same emotional elation as they do in a movie like "Raiders of the Lost Ark." An even stronger argument could be made for the "Star Wars" sequels. DC all but destroyed its brand with "Justice League."
What differentiates those movies from that of "The Terminator" or even "The Dark Knight" is they feel less like movies and more like glorified television shows. Bottom line: they just don't build to a meaningful climax. There's no suspense because we already know that Spiderman or Iron Man or Black Panther will overcome their nemesis no matter how great or dire the cliffhanger. Like any television show, we instinctively know that next week's episode will set the universe right again.
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In any classic, you get a sense that the filmmakers carefully crafted something for their audience to enjoy. You get a sense that Spielberg really wanted to make "Jaws" or that James Cameron really wanted to make "Titanic" or that Peter Jackson really wanted to make "Lord of the Rings." No such experience exists with the modern blockbuster.
Is there really any difference in quality between the "Star Wars" sequels, the Marvel movies, and "Jurassic World"? As products of executive committees, they look the same, feel same, and sound the same. Some are indeed slicker and more entertaining than others, but none of them actually rise above a mere amusement park ride.
Movies that tell great stories have now become the minority, outnumbered by two increasingly emboldened camps of filmmaking: shameless commercialism and political propaganda. The blockbusters are the former and the Oscar-bait films are the latter.
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:54 pm to RollTide1987
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is they feel less like movies and more like glorified television shows. Bottom line: they just don't build to a meaningful climax. There's no suspense because we already know that Spiderman or Iron Man or Black Panther will overcome their nemesis no matter how great or dire the cliffhanger. Like any television show, we instinctively know that next week's episode will set the universe right again.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:57 pm to RollTide1987
Can't find a reasonable argument. Dude's right.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:00 pm to King George
I agree with the guys overall argument that high quality/memorable blockbusters are few and far between these days. Especially agree that they are all almost exactly the same
But I disagree that great and rewatchable movies aren’t made anymore
But I disagree that great and rewatchable movies aren’t made anymore
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:00 pm to RollTide1987
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Movies that tell great stories have now become the minority, outnumbered by two increasingly emboldened camps of filmmaking: shameless commercialism and political propaganda. The blockbusters are the former and the Oscar-bait films are the latter.
What an excellent, simple explanation of everything wrong with the movie industry today, all summed up in two sentences. Hope this writer has good job security, because that final sentence is too honest for that town.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:03 pm to RollTide1987
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Since 2006, when Scorsese's "The Departed" took home the Oscar for Best Picture, can anyone name a single movie they have repeatedly watched?
No Country for Old Men
Nightcrawler
Whiplash
Zodiac
TDK, TDKR
eta- The Wrestler
That's about it.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:08 pm to tigerfan84
I've watched Argo and Spotlight several times. Love those films.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:10 pm to RollTide1987
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Let's take a show of hands, shall we? Since 2006, when Scorsese's "The Departed" took home the Oscar for Best Picture, can anyone name a single movie they have repeatedly watched? The kind of movie that holds the attention from start to finish once every few years? I can already guess them: all Christopher Nolan movies and maybe a few from Quentin Tarantino or David Fincher or David O. Russell, all of whom entered the film industry in the early or late-'90s before the industry moved to the franchise business model.
No love for Denis Villeneuve? Other than that, the guy’s article is spot on.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:10 pm to RollTide1987
It does feel like two extremes these days.
Avengers etc. and then Moonlight.
Where's the middle ground?
What happened to the middle ground?
Where is the Ghandi of today? The Right Stuff? General audience movies that aren't comic-book related?
It seems two extremes. Will I see a cartoon? A comic-book movie? A Pure action movie? Or some small Oscar bait?
Avengers etc. and then Moonlight.
Where's the middle ground?
What happened to the middle ground?
Where is the Ghandi of today? The Right Stuff? General audience movies that aren't comic-book related?
It seems two extremes. Will I see a cartoon? A comic-book movie? A Pure action movie? Or some small Oscar bait?
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:10 pm to RollTide1987
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Let's take a show of hands, shall we? Since 2006, when Scorsese's "The Departed" took home the Oscar for Best Picture, can anyone name a single movie they have repeatedly watched?
Off the top of my head:
The Wolf of Wallstreet
Whiplash
The Martian
Fury Road
Hell or High Water
Hacksaw Ridge
Django Unchained
Moneyball
Inception
The Social Network
Inglourious Basterds
No Country for Old Men
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:18 pm to RollTide1987
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"Star Wars" lost to "Annie Hall." "Raiders of the Lost Ark" lost to "Chariots of Fire." "E.T." lost to "Gandhi." "Pulp Fiction" lost to "Forest Gump."
Forest Gump is much better than Pulp Fiction.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:18 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Off the top of my head:
The Wolf of Wallstreet
Whiplash
The Martian
Fury Road
Hell or High Water
Hacksaw Ridge
Django Unchained
Moneyball
Inception
The Social Network
Inglourious Basterds
No Country for Old Men
I’ll add:
Sicario
Ex Machina
Arrival
There Will Be Blood
Drive
Three Billboards
La La Land
The Big Short
Zero Dark Thirty
Warrior
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:20 pm to Dale Murphy
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Forest Gump is much better than Pulp Fiction.
Wrong
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:36 pm to jg8623
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Sicario
Ex Machina
Arrival
There Will Be Blood
Drive
Three Billboards
La La Land
The Big Short
Zero Dark Thirty
Warrior
Out of these I haven’t seen:
Drive
Warrior
The big short
La la Land
Ex Machina
I have seen drive, warrior, and Ex Machina mentioned several times on this board so I will be adding them to my list.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:44 pm to Rize
Drive was a very polarizing movie. Not everyone is gonna like it. I was just naming it as a movie I’ve seen more than once
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:47 pm to Dale Murphy
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Forest Gump is much better than Pulp Fiction.
Shawshank is better than both of them
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:54 pm to RollTide1987
The premise is false - there aren't less rewatchable movies now, they were just always few and far between to begin with.
Did people spend a lot of time memorizing all the lines to Kramer vs Kramer, Out of Africa, The Elephant Man? Go to late night costume showings of Midnight Cowboy, Straw Dogs, and Terms of Endearment? Of course they didn't.
Did people spend a lot of time memorizing all the lines to Kramer vs Kramer, Out of Africa, The Elephant Man? Go to late night costume showings of Midnight Cowboy, Straw Dogs, and Terms of Endearment? Of course they didn't.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:06 pm to Rize
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have seen drive, warrior, and Ex Machina mentioned several times on this board so I will be adding them to my list.
Stop what you're doing right now and watch Ex Machina. Its on Netflix now so you don't have an excuse.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:58 pm to Cap Crunch
Same thing goes for Warrior
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:14 am to Dale Murphy
I’ve watched Annie Hall and Chariots of Fire as many times as I’ve watched Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
This guy is hit and miss at best.
This guy is hit and miss at best.
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