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"The Americans" on FX. I just finished the series finale. SPOILERS. Thoughts?

Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:14 am
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:14 am
**Spoilers**


So I binged it over the past month or so.

Really enjoyed the show, and the human side of things regarding Elizabeth and Philips work/family life.

People here that watched the show through, what was your thoughts on the finale?

I totally didn't see it coming when Paige hopped off the train, basically ditching her parents who were headed back to Russia.

Philip and Elizabeth were such bad people, I wanted Stan Beeman to bust their arse, or even kill them.

But I suppose the parents having to abandon their kids and go back to shitty Russia to live out a miserable existence was an even worse punishment.

Is that how you all interpreted it?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:31 am to
You could tell Paige didn't have it in her and she loved Henry too much to leave him behind. I don't think Stan would let them prosecute her. Overall I enjoyed it
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:35 am to
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ou could tell Paige didn't have it in her and she loved Henry too much to leave him behind. I don't think Stan would let them prosecute her. Overall I enjoyed it




I agree.

What do you make of the fate of Philip and Elizabeth?
Is having to abandon their kids and move back to shitty Soviet Union their "life sentence" as a punishment?

Philip definitely enjoyed "being American" and all the things an upper middle class American lifestyle provided.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:36 am to
The scene in the garage was one of the most intense scenes I’ve ever seen.

I felt about Phillip and Elizabeth like i did about Tony Soprano, i was “rooting” for the FBI to bust them but I knew it would never happen

The ending was near perfect for the show, yeah it’s sucks they never answer for their terrible crimes but they lost everything that mattered
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:38 am to
Was Stan's girlfriend KGB? I liked that we never got resolution on that.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:38 am to
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it’s sucks they never answer for their terrible crimes but they lost everything that mattered



Exactly how I feel. or at least, thats what I've convinced myself
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:39 am to
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Was Stan's girlfriend KGB? I liked that we never got resolution on that.

I think she was!
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:44 am to
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Was Stan's girlfriend KGB? I liked that we never got resolution on that.


Stan and Oleg are the ones that really get screwed. Though I’m pretty convinced Renee is not KGB, it doesn’t make sense to me that they would keep her with him for 3 years after he quit counter intelligence
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:46 am to
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Oleg


I liked Oleg, but his pride/stubbornness did him in.

He was caught in America, with a wife and kid back home, and he refused to help himself to get back home to see them.



Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:51 am to
Couldn’t disagree more. He was doing what he thought was best for his country and the world. He was willing to sacrifice himself for the sake of his family
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:53 am to
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Couldn’t disagree more. He was doing what he thought was best for his country and the world. He was willing to sacrifice himself for the sake of his family



No, you ARE right. I don't disagree with you.

I just hated seeing his story end like that. His sacrifice was in vain.

Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:53 am to
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Philip and Elizabeth were such bad people

How would you feel about them if they were Americans in Moscow in a show called the Russians?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:55 am to
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Philip and Elizabeth were such bad people, I wanted Stan Beeman to bust their arse, or even kill them.

I really don't think Philip was.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:06 am to
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How would you feel about them if they were Americans in Moscow in a show called the Russians?


Differently for sure, but I think I would still find killing innocent civilians wrong regardless. I hope so anyway

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I really don't think Philip was.


He committed numerous homicides including innocent by standers. Even Phillip thinks he’s an awful person

This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 11:07 am
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:07 am to
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How would you feel about them if they were Americans in Moscow in a show called the Russians?



The murder of legitimately innocent people was wrong no matter what country they did it for.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:08 am to
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I really don't think Philip was.



Philip had more of a conscious than Elizabeth (who was a total robot killing/fricking machine).

But he still committed atrocities.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:18 am to
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The murder of legitimately innocent people was wrong no matter what country they did it for.

You just condemned a shite ton of people in the military and intelligence community. Sure you want to be that pure in your morality?
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:19 am to
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You just condemned a shite ton of people in the military and intelligence community. Sure you want to be that pure in your morality?



Dude, we're talking about a tv show. I was answering your question...
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:20 am to
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Philip had more of a conscious than Elizabeth


I always thought Elizabeth was just a true believer. She believed in the cause of Communism. Philip I thought was a high achiever type of “alpha” who got the best job he could to get out of his home town. If he was born in the US he probably works on Wall Street or something but in the USSR the KGB in probably the most prestigious exciting job available.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 11:24 am to
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Dude, we're talking about a tv show. I was answering your question...

What's the difference? Are you saying your judgments of good and bad only matter when it's fantasy?
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