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re: 'The Acolyte' Megathread: The Grand Finale is now streaming

Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:50 pm to
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Because it was created by Lucas. That’s why. It’s his baby and his lore that should be followed. He’s stated in plenty of interviews that Anakin was an anomaly from the Force.


He also made midicholirans in those movies.

the force being because of space bugs in your body is 10000x worse than anything Disney has put out.
Posted by Esquire
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:00 pm to
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When Anakin returns and kills Palpatine, that's the first Sith. Then he dies, killing Vader and fulfilling the prophecy.


To me, this isn’t balance. The scales are tipped towards the Light with Luke as the last Jedi unless you want to venture into Grey Jedi territory, which I don’t think is canon. The Force isn’t inherently Light or Dark.

In my opinion, the best representation of the balanced Force was the Bendu from Rebels.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:05 pm to
RLDSC is here for the drama posting that
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:06 pm to
What I just said is essentially paraphrased right from Lucas other than maybe the part about Yoda but anyone can gather that from context clues.

The Dark side, even with just two Sith, causes imbalance because of how physically powerful they are. But they can't reach immortality with the exception of maybe a piece of Darth Bane. The Light is more powerful with everlasting life.

That's why Obi Wan doesn't care about Vader striking him down because "I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 1:09 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:11 pm to
just fooling around
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:12 pm to
I think you can say the prophecy balanced the Jedi and Sith, but not the Force as a whole. The Jedi and Sith are just parts of their respective sides of the Force. The witches of Dathomir use the dark side but aren’t Sith. The Inquisitors were dark side users outside the rule of two.
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:13 pm to
Star Wars brought to you by the CW network....
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:23 pm to
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George Lucas himself has stated that Anakin is the Chosen One and that the prophecy is true, although it had been misinterpreted by the entire Jedi Order.[29][30] Lucas believes that both the dark side—greed— and the light side—compassion—are integral parts of human beings. Therefore, balance must be maintained[31]—contrary to popular misconception, balance is not equilibrium between the dark and light; rather, balance is when the dark side does not prevail.[32]
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:25 pm to
I always thought the whole point of the PT was the Qui-Gon and Obi-wan ignored all of Anakin’s red flags, and all of the warnings of Yoda and Mace because they believed so heavily that Anakin was the prophecy, and andnit was one of those classic tropes where belief in a prophecy fulfills it in an unexpected way, namely: There were a lot more Jedi than Siths and now it’s way more balanced since Obi-Wan killed most of them.

Ok so that’s what Lucas said. so the prophecy is fulfilled at the end of the PT.

Anakin is more like Paul Atreides than Jesus.


And how does no sith = balance. And if one side is inherently good and one side inherently evil why try and “balance” it.

This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:33 pm to
ko
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think it could work with Mando if they got rid of Grogu but doing it with any other show would be a disaster.


don’t need to get rid of Groku but I would absolutely like an semi episodic mandalorian showZ

Season one if very like that where every episode is part of the bigger story but is a somewhat self contained adventure.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:37 pm to
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but having other children born from the Force is going to cause people, including myself, to lose their shite. Surely they didn’t allow that to happen…
Reading the Reddit spoiler thread, this seems to be taking one line of dialogue about their “unknown” creation, a mystery that will likely be explored in the second half of the season, and making it out to me some definitive thing. Here is the response for the Redditor who posted it.
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Their mysterious creation is only mentioned in a single line of dialogue in the third episode. I'm sure there's more to come.
So I suspect that because there are twins, and this seems to be part of the mystery, that the answer to the mystery of the creation, won’t the same as Anakin’s.

And this Alan Ng guy going around, saying this will “ruin” Star Wars, especially based on the little information provided in the first half of the season, is just him either trolling for engagement or just pure histrionics.

Hell even if his interpretation ends up being correct, “ruining Star Wars,” is still histrionics and just flat out weak-minded, since this immaculate-type conception was introduced decades after Star Wars was a beloved property, and it was introduced in prequel material that was so hated, just like the new material, that the hatred was leading some of the actors to contemplate suicide.

So now of course, this is going to ruin Star Wars, because it MIGHT change the minimally explored lore, introduced in material that once “ruined” Star Wars.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:41 pm to
I mean I can’t argue with George. Unless it’s about the existence of the special editions. Or Han shooting first.

But I think Filoni has added more nuance to the balance of the Force since. Especially with the Bendu and the Mortis gods Father, Daughter, and Son. (I think the gods are borrowed from the EU, but I’m giving Filoni credit until someone provides a reference.) Some may disagree, but I hold Filoni’s interpretation of the lore in just as high regard as George’s. He is, in every way, Lucas’ apprentice.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:45 pm to
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In my opinion, the best representation of the balanced Force was the Bendu from Rebels.



I would say it was the Father, the Son, and the Daughter that Anakin, Ahsoka and Obi-Wan met on Mortis.

They are what keeps the force balanced, until they were killed, and the prophecy of the chosen one being Anakin was to take the place of the Father. When he does that, is when the force will be balanced again.


Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
15322 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:46 pm to
I really like Clone Wars and Rebels Filoni but idk, it seems like something happened to him along the way. It's like he's still putting out good ideas but he's not the one taking them to the finish line.

Rebels Thrawn is a cold and calculated genius villain but the Ahsoka version seems like an idiot.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 1:49 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29818 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:47 pm to
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And how does no sith = balance.


That was the interpretation of the prophecy by the arrogant jedi's.
It makes no sense, and shows how out of touch they were and why they needed to be destroyed with the Sith.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:53 pm to
Doesn’t matter, it’s trash.

I’ve always been open that I don’t pay for trash, thus I don’t subscribe to D+ (Or Amazon)…

For very specific reasons I’ve given a dozen times if not more.

Cope harder at liking your lgbtq£z Lesbo self insert (Giggity) fanfic.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:00 pm to
Acolyte is worse than Boba Fett

Better than Holiday Special.

As gay as True Blood

Dialogue seems to be written by Rose Tico
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14413 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:01 pm to
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I really like Clone Wars and Rebels Filoni but idk, it seems like something happened to him along the way. It's like he's still putting out good ideas but he's not the one taking them to the finish line.


I think he has taken on too much responsibility for the overall production of the Mandoverse after the success of Mando.

I feel like he was given the choice between working on Kenobi or Ahsoka and he took the one that is essentially his own creation. I don’t believe Kenobi would have been as bad if he was involved, even as a producer. But that’s irrelevant.

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Rebels Thrawn is a cold and calculated genius villain but the Ahsoka version seems like an idiot.


I agree. And again I think the added responsibilities with his new role are a big reason why. But I hope he can take the criticism moving forward or just hire Zahn to write for Thrawn. I’m not quite ready to write Thrawn off yet since we only got 2 episodes with him and they just needed to get him back to the right galaxy asap.
I think including the Mortis gods in Ahsoka is something only Filoni would do and, to me, is what I’m most interested in exploring in the future. RIP Ray
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 2:04 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:01 pm to
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Cope harder
You’re the one who rages over content you refuse to watch, because you watch rage bait videos instead, You’re like a fish who falls for the same bait every time, but the people who make the rage bait are laughing at how many times you’ll take the bait.

I honestly think that if Tolkien or Lucas could read your posts, they would be like “this dude doesn’t get it at all.” Obviously George could, but it’s unfair to make him suffer through it.
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