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re: The 50 Best Movies of 1999

Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:37 am to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:37 am to
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10) American Pie


It's a timepiece for sure, but really? Who could put that on the same list as Fight Club and The Matrix?
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:45 am to
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16. The Insider


The Insider is one of the great, forgotten movies of the 90s. Just a fantastic movie.

And when Bruce McGill drops the "Wipe that smirk off your face" line. I mean, holy shite.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:50 am to
quote:

quote:
10) American Pie


It's a timepiece for sure, but really? Who could put that on the same list as Fight Club and The Matrix?



People who were 8 years old when the movie came out probably.
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:55 am to
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It was not critically praised. It was a critical and commercial flop that found a huge audience on DVD over the course of the early 2000s. That said, I do think it is now overrated by the culture at large.


Agreed, I was working at a theater when this came out. I loved this damn movie and most everyone hated it. It did shitty, I'm not sure when people started liking it, but it was well after it's theater run. Agree it's overpraised now.

I still got the giant wall banner from my theater, no one wanted it, so I took it home. It's rolled up in my basement somewhere, lol.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 11:57 am
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:38 pm to
Underrated from this list:

45. October Sky - Great adaptation of The Rocket Boys and the story of Homer Hickam.

34. The Green Mile - One of the best movie adaptations of a Stephen King novel...

24. The Iron Giant - Timeless...awesome.

13. Three Kings - Vastly underrated story that is truly enjoyable.

Ridiculously overrated:

4. Magnolia
5. The Talented Mr. Ripley
6. Election
7. The Rare Bitch Project
12. Eyes Wide Slut
15. Nothing Hill
21. Phantom Menace


Why this list lost all credibility (Not Ranked):

The Boondock Saints
The Cider House Rules
Double Jeopardy (not an awesome movie...but much better than some of the crap on the list)

Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:40 pm to
I mean do people still like Fight Club? I thought it was one of those things that people liked around that time but then cringe when thinking about it. Like Korn.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:31 pm to
I think the IMDB top 250 is what got Fight Club it’s due. In the early 2000s, I can’t think of a more important signifier of a film’s importance than making the top 250 for fans of movies from the ages of 15 to 35.
Posted by timbo
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:44 pm to
I can't quibble with the top 4, other than slotting Magnolia over Office Space.
The Limey, Dogma and Galaxy Quest are way too low.
The Phantom Menace is one of the worst movies ever made.
It's impossible to properly evaluate American Beauty now, because of Kevin Spacey. It didn't hold up that well, even before he got #me too-d.

My top 5, in order
Fight Club
The Matrix
Magnolia
Office Space
Go
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:52 pm to
I think the ranking of Fight Club is a good reflection of the subject matter engaged rather than the skill with which they successfully resolved any of the issues correctly identified by the writer.

Here's a pretty decent review that spells out some of this:

fight club review

So I think people should love the part of the film that successfully struggles with meaning in existence - but what I don't really like about it (actually hate and fear) is how unsuccessfully they resolve issues and ultimately end the movie. Violence at the personal or societal level is a destructive non answer and the film leads too many people to consider physical or real violence to be a good substitute for inner improvement and struggling against personal and societal barriers through non violent means.

Is that an important concern? Yes, for anyone who thinks history echoes and Nietsche's philosophical influence offered important critiques but was a complete failure when it came to creating engaging solutions (was actually a step backwards from the personal and societal philosophies of Mill et al many years before).
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/29/19 at 2:13 pm to
Varsity Blues.
I can't believe it's been 20 years.
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