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re: Terminator Genisys was a pretty good movie. Spoiler review.
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:07 pm to Duzz
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:07 pm to Duzz
Just saw it and I have to say it was a lot better than I expected. With the exception of some physics defying CGI scenes, the action was excellent. The acting was kind of stale at times. Emilia was not really that convincing as Sarah Conner at first. But she grew on me as the movie progressed. Jai was kinda meh as Reese. And Jason Clarke was decent as John. Arnold definitely saved the movie.
Now, from a nostalgia viewpoint, I think they did an excellent job with the scenes from T1. I mean they nailed it. It's like I was watching a movie within a movie. A lot of the action had a similar feel to T2. The final scene especially.
I'm still kinda of struggling with the story. Not understanding it, cause there were some loose ends on purpose I assume. I'm more struggling with accepting it. I want to. It's just not really how I would have ever imagined it. I think it'll grow on me.
The score was fantastic. Lots of the old school ominous, creepy Terminator music.
My biggest complaint is how you never really get that feeling of any sort of real danger. The first 2 movies (and even sort of in the 3rd) you get that feeling that the enemy is indestructible and the battle to stay alive and fight it is almost a lost cause. Now I understand this is a different timeline with an older terminator and a little more experienced and ready Sarah Conner. But the JC terminator was far more advanced and yet he almost seemed as if he wasn't really trying to kill them. My other complaint is these "machines" made a lot of illogical decisions.
All that being said, I'm ready to jump on board with what James Cameron said. Forget the last 2 movies. This is the real Terminator 3.
ETA: I've seen some people say that it was better than Salvation, and as good as Rise of the Machines. Well, I disagree. It was a lot better than both of those. To be fair, it wasn't a very high bar. But they did a much better job on this movie than the previous 2.
Now, from a nostalgia viewpoint, I think they did an excellent job with the scenes from T1. I mean they nailed it. It's like I was watching a movie within a movie. A lot of the action had a similar feel to T2. The final scene especially.
I'm still kinda of struggling with the story. Not understanding it, cause there were some loose ends on purpose I assume. I'm more struggling with accepting it. I want to. It's just not really how I would have ever imagined it. I think it'll grow on me.
The score was fantastic. Lots of the old school ominous, creepy Terminator music.
My biggest complaint is how you never really get that feeling of any sort of real danger. The first 2 movies (and even sort of in the 3rd) you get that feeling that the enemy is indestructible and the battle to stay alive and fight it is almost a lost cause. Now I understand this is a different timeline with an older terminator and a little more experienced and ready Sarah Conner. But the JC terminator was far more advanced and yet he almost seemed as if he wasn't really trying to kill them. My other complaint is these "machines" made a lot of illogical decisions.
All that being said, I'm ready to jump on board with what James Cameron said. Forget the last 2 movies. This is the real Terminator 3.
ETA: I've seen some people say that it was better than Salvation, and as good as Rise of the Machines. Well, I disagree. It was a lot better than both of those. To be fair, it wasn't a very high bar. But they did a much better job on this movie than the previous 2.
This post was edited on 7/3/15 at 10:13 pm
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 9:14 am to PillageUrVillage
T3 is the worst of the series. I've enjoyed all the others.
John Connor terminator did not seem like an upgrade over the T-X at all, or even the T-1000. So that did distract a little.
John Connor terminator did not seem like an upgrade over the T-X at all, or even the T-1000. So that did distract a little.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 9:41 am to PillageUrVillage
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physics defying CGI
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acting was kind of stale
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kinda of struggling with the story
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never really get that feeling of any sort of real danger
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This is the real Terminator 3.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Way to take everything out of context
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:17 pm to PillageUrVillage
I just think it's weird that you're aware of and point out how bad the movie is, yet you're still insisting its good
Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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it was a lot better than I expected
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To be fair, it wasn't a very high bar. But they did a much better job on this movie than the previous 2.
Not exactly high praise. There were parts that they did really well. Some parts were very underwhelming.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 8:03 pm to PillageUrVillage
I thought it was better than 26% on RT. Kyle Reese was terribly miscast though. There were also some cringe-worthy moments when it tried to be funny, like when they put the COPS bad boys song to the mugshots. Just terrible. Overall worth the price of a matinee ticket.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 8:54 pm to Duzz
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Jane Connor.
I guess i'm not the only one who thought Hollywood is going to go in that direction to be "progressive". Also, this would have been such a better movie if it was made immediately after T2 and used the original actors similar to how Back to the Future did things from a different vantage point.
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 7/4/15 at 9:01 pm to Kel Varnsen
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like when they put the COPS bad boys song to the mugshots. Just terrible. Overall worth the price of a matinee ticket.
I liked seeing the Terminator arrested and being questioned.
I think "Pops" was starting to develop some AI himself. He was 'programmed' for sure, but little things he did were outside of the program. Look how he had hung up all of the old drawings Sarah did as a kid in the new hideout, why would a program do that? He actually missed her. He had some feelings I suspect. I also really liked his T-1000 upgrade.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 9:01 pm to JabarkusRussell
I was commenting to someone today how Courtney's Reese and Biehn's Reese were like two completely different people.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 2:26 am to NOSTRODAMUS
I just saw it and I actually really enjoyed it. I was engaged the whole time and had a lot of fun. It certainly wasn't flawless, but I'm very confused how it's gotten slammed so hard by critics. Don't feel like it deserves it.
It was worth the price of the ticket and that IMAX poster
Yeah, I saw people complaining about how this one didn't have the subjects question humanity and stuff... I guess they must have missed this because he definitely had human characteristics/traits that went even beyond protecting Sarah.
It was worth the price of the ticket and that IMAX poster
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Look how he had hung up all of the old drawings Sarah did as a kid in the new hideout, why would a program do that? He actually missed her. He had some feelings I suspect. I also really liked his T-1000 upgrade.
Yeah, I saw people complaining about how this one didn't have the subjects question humanity and stuff... I guess they must have missed this because he definitely had human characteristics/traits that went even beyond protecting Sarah.
This post was edited on 7/5/15 at 2:29 am
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:01 am to Duzz
My main complaint was the same as yours: trailer spoilers.
Otherwise perfectly fine elements dragged on because you were waiting for the plot to catch up to the synopsis already revealed in trailers.
In a related note, WTF @ the Mazerunner sequel.
Not only you spoil a huge reveal of the first movie (which to be fair, might have been needed in any trailer, but still it kinda rubbed raw), you do the SAME shite that they did for the Terminator trailer and give a synopsis of the storyline for the first hour of the movie AND include the big twist reveal that changes everything?
WTF Hollywood, I know you want the money but at least PRETEND to have some respect for the art.
Otherwise perfectly fine elements dragged on because you were waiting for the plot to catch up to the synopsis already revealed in trailers.
In a related note, WTF @ the Mazerunner sequel.
Not only you spoil a huge reveal of the first movie (which to be fair, might have been needed in any trailer, but still it kinda rubbed raw), you do the SAME shite that they did for the Terminator trailer and give a synopsis of the storyline for the first hour of the movie AND include the big twist reveal that changes everything?
WTF Hollywood, I know you want the money but at least PRETEND to have some respect for the art.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
If anything, it seemed like they mostly pretended 4 never happened.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:07 am to Ace Midnight
It seems to me that you spend an inordinate amount of time in threads discussing movies you have no intention of ever seeing. 
Posted on 7/5/15 at 3:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
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However I didn't think T3 was that bad
take the terminator name off that movie and it's pretty forgettable. I will say though that they did a really good job making the T-X feel like she was one step ahead of the heros at every turn. It was a natural advancement from the t-800 and the t-1000. Whereas with T2 it was a fairly even matchup and the chess game between the t-800 and t-1000 was fun, they took the next step in t3 and the feeling was palpable that Arnie was no match for her at all and they were living on borrowed time.
T5 introduced John as a terminator even more advanced than the T-X and yet none of that tension exists. He's almost holding back. It's really frustrating and detracts from the movie. Also the fact that we aren't introduced to the main antagonist until halfway through the thing makes it impossible for them to really build anything with him. he just kind of shows up, doesn't kill anyone, and then lets arnie kill him.
I feel that the models aren't nesscessarily successive but rather branching. The t-1000 is incredibly more complex than the t-800, but it was going for a different approach.
The T-X was the height of the technology for the assault approach shared by the t-800, which is why there is no real comparison between the two in a fight.
The T-3000 however, while amazingly more advanced, is not really geared to direct assaults like the T-X was. It's an supreme infiltrator, embodying the tactic of "if you can't beat them, join them."
It's main abilities are near infinite durability and the fact that they can be generated from key human personal, depriving humanity of assets while building sleeper agents.
They aren't intended to be masters of a battlefield like a T-X is.
On a related note....anyone else surprised they didn't make Sarah being "infected" a plot point? I'm glad they didn't TBH. They are already pretty damn close to playing sone kind of Borg card.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 2:04 pm to Napoleon
i enjoyed the movie. shouldn't have spoiled the John conor terminator angle.
Are they making any more predator movies? wish they would
Are they making any more predator movies? wish they would
Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:54 pm to GeauxTigers2020
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he definitely had human characteristics/traits that went even beyond protecting Sarah.
He always did. Look at T2. "I now know why you cry".
Posted on 7/5/15 at 5:53 pm to Napoleon
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I think "Pops" was starting to develop some AI himself.
"My CPU is a neural net processor. A learning computer" - T2
Posted on 7/5/15 at 6:54 pm to PillageUrVillage
Meh. The film was better than I was expecting. I don't think it deserved the reaming it got from critics, but the movie wasn't all that good. I enjoyed, for the most part, the first half of the film. But once John Connor showed up in 2017 it just went down hill for me.
Jai Courtney was a mediocre Kyle Reese. In fact, Michael Biehn's Reese and Jai Courtney's Reese are almost completely different people. Emilia Clarke, while a worthy actress, just doesn't belong as Sarah Connor. She was supposed to be this bad arse, and yet she didn't come off as one. She wasn't nearly as physical or as imposing as Linda Hamilton was in Terminator 2.
I also didn't like the direction they went with John Connor. Like many of you, I was spoiled by the trailer reveal, so I knew what he was going to become. But I did not buy nor like it. Arnold Schwarzenegger, of all people, saves this from being a complete disaster.
The action scenes were entertaining but none will be talked about by moviegoers and film fans 20 years from now. The best I can say about this film is that it was better than Terminator Salvation.
Final Grade: C.
Jai Courtney was a mediocre Kyle Reese. In fact, Michael Biehn's Reese and Jai Courtney's Reese are almost completely different people. Emilia Clarke, while a worthy actress, just doesn't belong as Sarah Connor. She was supposed to be this bad arse, and yet she didn't come off as one. She wasn't nearly as physical or as imposing as Linda Hamilton was in Terminator 2.
I also didn't like the direction they went with John Connor. Like many of you, I was spoiled by the trailer reveal, so I knew what he was going to become. But I did not buy nor like it. Arnold Schwarzenegger, of all people, saves this from being a complete disaster.
The action scenes were entertaining but none will be talked about by moviegoers and film fans 20 years from now. The best I can say about this film is that it was better than Terminator Salvation.
Final Grade: C.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:52 pm to RollTide1987
Saw it tonight.
It was decent, probably the 3rd best in the franchise beating 3 and Salvation but still doesn't touch the first two. I hated the whole John Connor is a Terminator and upgrading Arnold to a T-1000 story lines. I left before the post-credits teaser but will be interesting to see the direction the two sequels take. Overall I give it a C.
It was decent, probably the 3rd best in the franchise beating 3 and Salvation but still doesn't touch the first two. I hated the whole John Connor is a Terminator and upgrading Arnold to a T-1000 story lines. I left before the post-credits teaser but will be interesting to see the direction the two sequels take. Overall I give it a C.
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