re: "Tenet" Official SPOILERS Thread

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Better with subtitles

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Yea I liked the movie. But caught myself wishing there were subtitles multiple times in the movie.

I saw it once, then again about a week later. I actually liked the first viewing, but it's much better upon second watch. There is just too much to unpack on the first watch when you have no idea what the hell to look for.

Anyone else get the sense that Neil (Pattinson) is actually a future version of Kat's son Max that was recruited by the Protaganist and inverted several years back with knowledge to assist the current JDW? This movie still makes my brain hurt

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I've seen that theory, but my thoughts as to why it's not the son is because he would have to be inverted for YEARS to be the age Neil is in the movie. Not a problem, except for the breathing issue and the fact that he would probably be arrested for driving backwards everywhere.

Wouldn't he have to carry an oxygen mask all that time?

I've been googling the need for the O2 masks and can't find the answer. I need a second viewing to hear how they explain it.

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It's a popular theory and I think it works in many ways.

Recall that masks are only needed if an inverted individual exposes themselves to air that is not inverted - ie, when you're out and about and walking around, the characters wear masks when inverted. This is because your bodily entropy is inverted relative to the entropy of the molecules in the air. An inverted person, from their own perspective, appears to inhale normally - for air molecules, however, they appear to be physically exhaling.

Given that your lung volume increases when inhaling, and decreases when exhaling, when you breathe out while inverted, the non-inverted air molecules are still reacting to the force you created, but instead travel into your lungs at the point in which your total lung capacity is at its lowest. This means far less oxygen is getting pumped through your body and to your organs, resulting in hypoxemia. Hence the need for masks with inverted air to properly work with your inverted bodily entropy.

But recall there were also scenes where the characters were inverted, but not wearing masks (a few of them actually) - this is because they were sequestered within a sealed room or container with their own inverted air. We saw this on the blue side of the room after JDW, Neil, and Ives all inverted themselves after Kat was shot. None of them had masks, because that was a sealed room that now contained inverted air. We also saw this on the cargo ship while they were traveling back to the Oslo Freeport to reinvert themselves. Neil, Kat, and JDW were all talking with one another in that container without masks, as it was a hermetically sealed container filled with inverted air.

So it seems reasonable to assume that a younger future Neil could have inverted himself for years without becoming too entangled with the non-inverted world. He would simply need a sealed room, or series of rooms (perhaps on a cargo ship as seen near the end of the film) in which he could live until the time came to reinvert himself to carry out his mission.

Thank you! (Mr. Nolan)

I definitely need a rewatch. The soundtrack has stayed on at work and although it's no Zimmer, it's just as good.

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Certainly one of the better scores in a Nolan film. I would place it right alongside Inception.

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I thought the score had a bit too much going on at times, but still a good one overall. Don't think its close to Interstellar and Inception though

rented this last night. couldn't even finish it.

it wasn't even because it was overly confusing just to be confusing (which actually made it make no sense), but it was just bad. you know like when stoner comedies are described as not a movie and a bunch of skits? that's Tenet. it was a collection of scenes glued together with simplistic expository dialogue uttered with wooden acting (except Neil had some decent deliveries)

Nolan was trying to have a rapid-fire Sorkin-like script which doesn't work with a massive, high concept sci fi, ESPECIALLY if you can't/won't explain it