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re: "Tenet" Official SPOILERS Thread
Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:59 am to Hot Carl
Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:59 am to Hot Carl
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. He literally wants to destroy the world. And not even for some warped means to an end like Thanos.
He received instructions when he was younger in Stalsk 12 and agreed to the contract with the future. He was offered the chance to live most of his life as a billionaire under the condition that when the time came, he would end it all.
So, he had a choice back when he was a teenager - live a normal life and probably never amount to much, or live as a billionaire for the next 40 years with the expectation that you'll end all when the time comes.
He chose the latter. And the terminal nature of his illness gave him no hesitancy about reneging on his agreement.
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:00 pm to Hot Carl
HC, I agree w/ most of your takes.
I'll throw in here that one of the most interesting moments to me was when Branagh was talking to JDW about Kat cutting him loose on the boat. He eerily responded "do you think she was the one to do that" or something to that effect. He didn't even acknowledge his lack of control and vulnerability there.
ETA: Or, there could be something else here that's hidden in the plot... did he actually know it was going to happen?
I'll throw in here that one of the most interesting moments to me was when Branagh was talking to JDW about Kat cutting him loose on the boat. He eerily responded "do you think she was the one to do that" or something to that effect. He didn't even acknowledge his lack of control and vulnerability there.
ETA: Or, there could be something else here that's hidden in the plot... did he actually know it was going to happen?
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 9/3/20 at 6:43 pm to swagsurfin7
My mind is hurting haha.
Did anyone else trouble hearing at several parts of the movie ??.. either they were mumbling or the music was way too loud in the scene
Edit: guess a lot of you are in the same boat about the dialogue
Did anyone else trouble hearing at several parts of the movie ??.. either they were mumbling or the music was way too loud in the scene
Edit: guess a lot of you are in the same boat about the dialogue
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 9/3/20 at 6:50 pm to swagsurfin7
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Basically the end of the movie was sort of the beginning.
Neil told JDW at the very end that the entire operation was a giant temporal pincer, and that he was only "half way" done.
The JDW at the end that kills Priya is the one we've been following throughout the film, probably only a few months after the events in Stalsk 12 as Max appears to be the same age.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 7:48 pm to swagsurfin7
The way people spoke to each other in the first half of this film you’d swear you were listening to a static-riddled radio drama from the 1940’s.
Put me on the side of thinking JDW was miscast in this. I loved him in Black KKKlansman but in this he was wooden and did not provide the needed charisma a film this heavily built on exposition needed.
Not sure if I like it or not.
I certainly don’t love it.
That said, I am in awe of it.
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:16 pm to Salamander_Wilson
Did the end credits song hurt anyone elses ears. The heavy bass was vibrating the entire theater
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:55 pm to Hot Carl
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Mainly the idea that instead of using a concept to serve the story and developing characters we are emotionally invested in, Nolan works backwards here. He has this cool concept and tried to develop the story around that and wound up with characters that we really don’t give a shite about.
First thing I said after seeing it. The concept and execution (cinematography, etc) far exceeded the story. I still liked the movie, but not nearly as much as most of Nolan’s other movies
Posted on 9/4/20 at 12:09 am to jg8623
Only character I gave the only real interest in was Niel.
Everyone else felt like placeholders in the script. Which I have to wonder if there is some deeper meaning to given Nolan and that the fricking main character’s identifier was merely “The protagonist”
Everyone else felt like placeholders in the script. Which I have to wonder if there is some deeper meaning to given Nolan and that the fricking main character’s identifier was merely “The protagonist”
Posted on 9/4/20 at 8:59 am to Volvagia
Unless I just missed it, how did the characters reverse the time flow once they were in the past to start going forward again?
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 8:59 am
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:16 am to Salamander_Wilson
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:21 am to swagsurfin7
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There was an actual quote at the beginning by the girl showing him how everything worked that was along the lines of,
"The rules aren't even worth explaining" lol
How about the special ops guy saying "we just found this machine a few minutes ago" in response to James Bond's plan to save the day?
I felt like that had to be an intentional dig at what Nolan was doing.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:23 am to jg8623
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Unless I just missed it, how did the characters reverse the time flow once they were in the past to start going forward again?
They had to reenter another turnstile.
Neil does this multiple times in the battle at the end, as there are actually multiple versions of him running around during this scene.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:25 am to Cs
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They had to reenter another turnstile.
Neil does this multiple times in the battle at the end, as there are actually multiple versions of him running around during this scene.
Thats what I figured
Posted on 9/4/20 at 12:56 pm to Cs
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Neil does this multiple times in the battle at the end, as there are actually multiple versions of him running around during this scene.
Yep. There are three of him there I believe. Just like there were 3 Protagonists at the Airport.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 4:31 pm to Cs
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Neil told JDW at the very end that the entire operation was a giant temporal pincer, and that he was only "half way" done
That ending between them was the best part of the movie.
I would have been disappointed if it hadn’t happened because I was thinking the future people are the true enemy here. They are the ones trying to end the world.
JDW recruits Neil in the future and they are conducting a pincer movement. Which means this movie is blue team. So there’s a whole other movie about JDW and Neil and their red team move agains the future people who wanted to end the world.
Idk if Nolan would do a second part but it definitely opens the door for more.
That aspect that JDW’s future self recruited Neil and sent him back was pretty cool.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 9:39 pm to lsu1919
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Idk if Nolan would do a second part but it definitely opens the door for more.
Other than TDK trilogy, I don't think Nolan will do sequels
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:44 pm to swagsurfin7
I don’t think he does either.
But when Priya tells JDW there are other protagonists in this story then that could possibly mean those other protagonists are him in various times, or versions of himself.
I think there was a lot more to the story.
Also, I wonder if JDW is dead the whole movie.
Kinda like Leo might be dreaming in inception.
The protagonist bites the capsule in the first 10 mins then wakes up and is told about tenet. Did he die? Who knows.
But when Priya tells JDW there are other protagonists in this story then that could possibly mean those other protagonists are him in various times, or versions of himself.
I think there was a lot more to the story.
Also, I wonder if JDW is dead the whole movie.
Kinda like Leo might be dreaming in inception.
The protagonist bites the capsule in the first 10 mins then wakes up and is told about tenet. Did he die? Who knows.
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 9/4/20 at 10:49 pm to swagsurfin7
Just got out and what a mind frick. I liked it mostly because I love that Nolan does original stories and really pushes the limit on plots but like others have said, the dialogue and sound is just downright bad. You really don’t give a shite about the characters because they are just thrown in this very complex story line where so much is going on. There were so many short scenes that went from one place to the next in seconds to try to advance the plot that just felt so rushed and thrown in there. That said, I did like it because it’s a movie that makes you think and it’s a mind bending movie. I think one of the first posters said it best, this is the most Chris Nolan movie ever
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:11 pm to lsu1919
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But when Priya tells JDW there are other protagonists in this story then that could possibly mean those other protagonists are him in various times, or versions of himself.
I took this to mean she wasn't aware that he was the one that set this up. Considering he killed her at the end. He orchestrated all of it, so he could figure out what needed to be done to succeed.
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 9/4/20 at 11:50 pm to lsu1919
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But when Priya tells JDW there are other protagonists in this story then that could possibly mean those other protagonists are him in various times, or versions of himself.
This isn't what Priya meant, but it's exactly what Nolan wanted it to mean for the audience - it's why JDW is called "the Protagonist". There aren't others, he's the one. He establishes Tenet, designs the entire operation and recruits all of the players. When Priya says there "are others", she's right - other versions of the Protagonist at different points in time. But Priya was referring to other characters.
JDW made sure that every person that was part of Tenet was only informed as to what they needed to know to carry out their purpose, and nothing more. His CIA boss knew nothing other than the code word and the fact that it was a highly secretive operation.
Priya knew a lot, but obviously didn't know everything.
This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 11:57 pm
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