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re: Ted Turner's Film and Television Legacy
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:54 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:54 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Short article by Eason Jordan on Ted. Foreign news chief, worked at CNN 1982–2005. Good read
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:02 pm to Kafka
Posted on 5/10/26 at 1:34 am to Aeolian Vocalion
quote:Yesterday was RB's birthday. I presume I'm first on the board to mention this
TNT's first airing of "The Lost Flight" (1931) was in September 1989. I watched it and taped it then. The network showed all those WB Richard Barthelmess films
quote:you didn't like Heroes For Sale??
the dreary, commie "Heroes for Sale" (1933)
It has one of my favorite precode scenes: the war hero, now a morphine addict in 1920 NYC, corners his pusher and begs him for a fix.
It's like something from an American International double feature about beatnik dopers 25 yrs later
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:31 am to RollTide1987
TNT back 20 years ago was putting out some great shows as well. I remember "Into The West" was a very good miniseries he put out as was his miniseries on the Bible's Joseph to name a few.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:47 am to Kafka
Nope, don't care for "Heroes for Sale" (1933). I never cared for WB's social-drama trend. It's pretty much the only little sub-genre of film that I done care for, the social-drama or 'message' movie. Give me crime dramas, westerns, comedies, costume adventures, musicals, romance films, jungle hokum, circus pictures, anything else. I'll even watch those creaky early-talkie operetta films, like WB's "Sweet Kitty Bellairs" (1930). But, I just don't like films where I get the feeling I'm listening to some screenwriter with an agenda standing on a soapbox and ranting at me. Not nearly as common in pre-war films as post, but 1930s WB sometimes waded in those waters.
According to my book, Warner Bros. made 52 movies in 1933. I've seen about 45 of them. I like most of them. Shame we'll never get to see the 'lost' "Convention City" (1933), though. Whatever the case, being able to see all those films so easily was thanks to Ted Turner's opening all those vaults, roughly forty years ago.
According to my book, Warner Bros. made 52 movies in 1933. I've seen about 45 of them. I like most of them. Shame we'll never get to see the 'lost' "Convention City" (1933), though. Whatever the case, being able to see all those films so easily was thanks to Ted Turner's opening all those vaults, roughly forty years ago.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:35 pm to Aeolian Vocalion
While I agree there is occasional propaganda in Warners precodes, I view them more as exploitation: stories are "ripped from today's headlines" to allow as many sordid thrills as possible.
The Warners precodes, like the MGM musicals, Universal horrors, and Ealing comedies, are a collection of films linked by a common tone and style. In the case of Warners, they're all edited to MOVE! Fast!
As for HFS, it looks at the underside of American life, as does another Wellman from the same year, Wild Boys Of The Road (my favorite WW film). You can make a case that during this period WW was as good as any director in H'wood.
Afterward, w/a few exceptions (Beau Geste, GI Joe) most of his films were not very good. It's a curious dropoff in quality -- like you're talking about 2 different directors.
The Warners precodes, like the MGM musicals, Universal horrors, and Ealing comedies, are a collection of films linked by a common tone and style. In the case of Warners, they're all edited to MOVE! Fast!
As for HFS, it looks at the underside of American life, as does another Wellman from the same year, Wild Boys Of The Road (my favorite WW film). You can make a case that during this period WW was as good as any director in H'wood.
Afterward, w/a few exceptions (Beau Geste, GI Joe) most of his films were not very good. It's a curious dropoff in quality -- like you're talking about 2 different directors.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:48 pm to Kafka
The WB studio's propensity for zip and speed is why I love a lot of their programmers. Their delvings into hotsy-totsy pre-cord fare have a kind of potboiler tint, which can make them a mixed bag for me.
Paramount tended to push the envelope the furthest back then, but I think the studio's visual house-style, courtesy cinematographers like Karl Struss and Charles Lang, lent such an elegance that it couched some the more shocking and seedy outbursts. At least until they went entirely into the gutter with "The Search for Beauty" (1934).
I think the most interesting studio in that pre-code period is actually Fox studios. Lots of really, really weird stuff, like "The Warrior's Husband" (1933), "I Am Suzanne" (1934), "Face in the Sky" (1933), along with typical pre-code artifacts like the loopy "Sailor's Luck" (1933), along with "Call Her Savage" (1932), "Pleasure Cruise" (1933), "A Passport to Hell" (1932), and whatnot. And speaking of zippy, Fox one-ups WB with "The Trial of Vivienne Ware" (1932), which is done at such a breakneck speed it's almost disorienting. Cinematically, I'm often being convinced that Fox was a couple of years ahead of other studios, showing off more camera-angles, location work, and overall atmosphere. 1931 had several knockouts, like director William K. Howard's "Transatlantic" (1931), Henry King's "Over the Hill" (1931), and Raoul Walsh's "The Yellow Ticket" (1931). Eh, I'm rambling.
Paramount tended to push the envelope the furthest back then, but I think the studio's visual house-style, courtesy cinematographers like Karl Struss and Charles Lang, lent such an elegance that it couched some the more shocking and seedy outbursts. At least until they went entirely into the gutter with "The Search for Beauty" (1934).
I think the most interesting studio in that pre-code period is actually Fox studios. Lots of really, really weird stuff, like "The Warrior's Husband" (1933), "I Am Suzanne" (1934), "Face in the Sky" (1933), along with typical pre-code artifacts like the loopy "Sailor's Luck" (1933), along with "Call Her Savage" (1932), "Pleasure Cruise" (1933), "A Passport to Hell" (1932), and whatnot. And speaking of zippy, Fox one-ups WB with "The Trial of Vivienne Ware" (1932), which is done at such a breakneck speed it's almost disorienting. Cinematically, I'm often being convinced that Fox was a couple of years ahead of other studios, showing off more camera-angles, location work, and overall atmosphere. 1931 had several knockouts, like director William K. Howard's "Transatlantic" (1931), Henry King's "Over the Hill" (1931), and Raoul Walsh's "The Yellow Ticket" (1931). Eh, I'm rambling.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:04 pm to Aeolian Vocalion
I've haven't really had the chance to see all that many Paramount precodes, as most are buried in the Universal vaults. I prefer American Tragedy to A Place In The Sun, and I've seen some Lubitsches such as The Man I Killed.
I've seen even fewer Foxes. I like most Will Rogers films, and Ford's Pilgrimage. Just a week or so ago I watched a Spencer Tracy I'd never even heard of before, Looking For Trouble (Wellman). This moved slower than similar Warner films, despite the director. It was notable for the climax, set in the Long Beach earthquake of a few months earlier.
I'll keep your list of Fox precodes handy for future searches
I've seen even fewer Foxes. I like most Will Rogers films, and Ford's Pilgrimage. Just a week or so ago I watched a Spencer Tracy I'd never even heard of before, Looking For Trouble (Wellman). This moved slower than similar Warner films, despite the director. It was notable for the climax, set in the Long Beach earthquake of a few months earlier.
I'll keep your list of Fox precodes handy for future searches
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:17 pm to TheFonz
I remember TBS having some of the first college football games on tv after the
CFA lawsuit. The SEC started it dominance on tv with TBS.
CFA lawsuit. The SEC started it dominance on tv with TBS.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:58 am to Pauldingtiger
quote:
The SEC started it dominance on tv with TBS.
That is how I reconnected with SEC football in California. I would have breakfast and settle in to watch a 9 or 9:30 am game every week. Either Cal or Stanford generally had a 1:30 game on campus. I could watch the full game on TV and still make it to my seat in time for kickoff.
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