re: Survivor Season 41 (finally back two weeks from tonight)

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I am of the opinion that the winner of Survivor is ALWAYS the rightful winner.

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I agree. If you let the person get to the end and win, then they deserved it. I don't buy into juries being bitter or whatever. The whole point is you have to make the jury want to vote for you. If they are bitter then that's a mistake on your part.

The blm 'coalition' was NEVER going to vote for Xander ! Let's hope the next 'fully woke' season will have ALL the 'minorities' EQUALLY represented...LOL !

To be fair, Xander also big time misread the jury's perception of Erika. His comment about that might have cost him a few votes.

I think in Survivor moving forward you are going to see more final immunity winners putting themselves into the fire making challenge to pad their resume. If Xander sees how bad Erika is doing on the beach and goes in against her and wins... he wins the million.

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but her ingame in SJDS is one of my favorites ever. It's perfection.

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that’s completely fair, she played the best game of the final 4(?) and deserved the win more than missy and Jacqueline (I think? Haven’t watched since it aired). My family and I were really rooting for Keith though so that + my previous disliking of her soured me on the season

On the bright side, sjds did give us Jeremy who I really liked and thought played a brilliant game in 31

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If Xander sees how bad Erika is doing on the beach and goes in against her and wins... he wins the million.

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I doubt it...I think in that scenario Deshawn would get more votes and win.

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I think in that scenario Deshawn would get more votes and win

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Or…Heather wins…

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The jury disliked Deshawn a lot more than I realized. Another thing that wasn't flushed out very well during the editing.

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It surprises me that most of y’all didn’t realize just how much the jury disliked DeShaun. Lots of their comments to or about him were snarky. No way he was getting Richard, Shan, Liana, or Heather’s votes.

I think Xander never really accurately read the room on anything besides playing his idol. In the tribal council speeches, there seemed to be a big disconnect to me between what Xander said and what the jury thought was true in his game. I think he won challenges or found idols when he needed to and didn’t have any other plan. I think the jury felt he showed how clueless he was by taking Erika to the end instead of Heather.

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Xander also big time misread the jury's perception of Erika. His comment about that might have cost him a few votes.

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yeah he fricked this up. i actually think there's an argument to be made for taking someone decent with you so as not to give them the chance to take someone out in fire. im not sure when it's useful, but you'd definitely have to read the pecking order correctly and xander did not.

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I think in Survivor moving forward you are going to see more final immunity winners putting themselves into the fire making challenge to pad their resume

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you should really only throw yourself in if you are clearly not gonna win the game unless you take someone specific out. if that's not the case, you should be able to articulate why you put the people that you put in there and have it be just as effective.

xander mismanaged fire making, but i think the misread on erika's standing with the jury was the important piece. if he articulates that he feels that heather is the actual goat to carry with him and that deshawn and erika are 2 worthy competitors that he did not want to face in FTC, that should build capital without risking himself. would it? probably not, idk. juries are stupid.

the whole game is so fricking weird and convoluted and the edit only further muddies those waters. xander gets no credit from the jury for surviving with no vote, using his tribemates to perform the fake idol move on liana, saving his idol because he wasn't targeted, etc... basically, "yeah that's cool but you weren't targeted because you weren't a threat."

meanwhile, erika is basically praised and rewarded for not being targeted because she apparently was a threat? but how was it decided that she was a threat and xander wasn't? they both made it to final 3 so theoretically they were both threats. but yet, the jury saw erika as one and not xander, so she wins.

that happens all the time, but just fricking show us.

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Really disappointed in Danny’s vote, thought he would be open minded,

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I have to believe that editing was to blame for that perception. Danny even stood up out of turn at the end of the jury questions and commended Erika and said good things about her. Danny doesn’t seem like the spiteful type and, in the context of the editing we got to see, seemed like a consolation speech he’d give to her at the traditional after-show back in Los Angeles. Maybe his work with kids makes him more drawn to underdogs. Erika won 2 individual immunity challenges so she had more of a resume than Deshawn, I guess.

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To be fair, Xander also big time misread the jury's perception of Erika. His comment about that might have cost him a few votes.

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Totally agree

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I think in Survivor moving forward you are going to see more final immunity winners putting themselves into the fire making challenge to pad their resume. If Xander sees how bad Erika is doing on the beach and goes in against her and wins... he wins the million.

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That's probably true but if he loses that, he's out. Big risk but I agree if he did that and won, he wins.

I'm not that upset about Erika winning, she spoke very well to the jury.