re: Survivor Season 39 - Return of Boston Rob and Sandra....Or Island of the idols

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Does anyone really want to see returning players again?

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I do. I think the show needs it after this dud of a season.

I'll be curious to see if they put Rob and Amber on the same tribe to start.

Season long thread of 30 pages, seems higher than normal?

Why wasn’t Loren crying foul when Dean and Noura assaulted her by touching her shoulder while she was crying after losing the fire challenge? Isn’t that the kinda stuff Dan was accused of? He didn’t slip a finger inside anybody did he?

probst put his arm around that chick, that's assault !

noura doesn't have a BF? "shocked face". her bathing in the ocean before holding court and rambling for an hour guaranteed whoever lost out of the final 4 would not vote for her.

Dean just seems like a weasely frick. he's the guy that will frick your wife while you're deployed.

These shows are no longer about winning challenges or making it to the end. It's all about jury management. The fact that Tommy was the only one to realize that made him the winner.

Loren likely wins if she makes final 3. No one was taking her to the finale.

Can't think of a season worse than this one.


Hopefully next season is better.

The ONLY way I want to see returning players is if its ALL returning players. I've always hated mixing new and returning players.

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Well, that's pretty much how it has to be. Tommy did enough but wasn't a big time player IMO.

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For this season, he was big time enough. He was heavily involved in a majority of the evictions. I didn't want him to win because of what he did to Janet, but he was certainly deserving enough to win. I thought Dean had a strong case as well, and wouldn't have minded him winning.


This was just a really weird season. The Island Of Idols was a dud, all the social issues stuff was tiresome, and it was a fairly boring cast. But then almost all of the tribal councils were entertaining. I found myself only liking Janet, Elaine, and Lauren in the end, and that was only because they all 3 seemed like genuinely great people. None of them played that dynamic a game though. And I guess I liked Jamal. For all his faults, he'd be an interesting guy to sit and talk/debate with.

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For this season, he was big time enough. He was heavily involved in a majority of the evictions. I didn't want him to win because of what he did to Janet, but he was certainly deserving enough to win. I thought Dean had a strong case as well, and wouldn't have minded him winning. This was just a really weird season. The Island Of Idols was a dud, all the social issues stuff was tiresome, and it was a fairly boring cast. But then almost all of the tribal councils were entertaining. I found myself only liking Janet, Elaine, and Lauren in the end, and that was only because they all 3 seemed like genuinely great people. None of them played that dynamic a game though. And I guess I liked Jamal. For all his faults, he'd be an interesting guy to sit and talk/debate with.

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Don't get me wrong, I think Tommy deserved to win. I just don't feel he was that big compared to other seasons. Also, while I didn't want Dean to win, he came on really strong at the end. I actually thought he had it wrapped up after finding Tommy's idol and then winning immunity.

The tribals were great but as you said a very weird and underwhelming season to say the least. I actually thought Janet had a shot but that idol nullifier was played perfectly. I know Janet had to be like are you freaking kidding me??

Oh well, on to the next season.

Sandra made it decently far in her 3rd appearance, she was a good shield, plus everyone figured she wouldn't be able to win again.

This time I think will be a little different since everyone has won. She might make the merge, but not much further.

I'm really curious how they divide the tribes... I think there was a glimpse of it in the preview during the reunion, but I didn't pay a whole lot of attention.

I think, for example, if Amber and Rob are on the same tribe, one of them has to go early on. And it's probably going to be Rob, as he's really the bigger threat.

Rob and Sandra spending so much time together on Island of the Idols could also set them up a power couple that has to be broken up.

And then you have a lot of players that are more recent winners and have no history with the other winners... or older winners like Yul who hasn't returned until now.

Ethan, Amber, and Rob were all on All-Stars but Ethan was never on the same tribe as the other two.

Rob, Tyson, Parvati, and Sandra were all on the Villains tribe in Heroes vs. Villains.

Sarah and Tony played with each other twice, in their original season and then with Sandra in Game Changers... but Sandra wasn't on a tribe with Sarah at any point.

That's it. Really not a whole lot of overlap in actual gameplay.


ETA: Jeremy and Natalie played together on their first season, blood vs. water 2.

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Maybe its just me but Kelli doesnt get any sympathy from me because I felt she used the whole Dan thing as game play. Sucking the other ladies into her vortex of emotions

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Yeah, that’s not what happened at all.

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I just listened to Jeff Varner’s podcast about the show. Very interesting insight into the game and Probst. But I found it interesting that of all he noticed he mentioned none of Kelli’s use of the me-too thing as gameplay. He was too soft on her.

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That’s because she didn’t do that.




I thought the finale was pretty boring. Other than the goddess Sia giving 100k to Elaine and Janet there just wasn’t much of interest.

Tommie was boring and annoying as a game player imo but does seem to be a good dude and as a teacher can definitely use the money so good for him.

Nora grew on me kind of. I liked how she stood up for herself even when the jury was making it clear she had no shot and she was definitely herself and didn’t apologize for it.


I’m glad Kellie got her moment to speak but I would have liked to hear more on her feelings about not only Dan but also on Missy and Elizabeth. Same for Janet.

I still think Dan is going to get PAID by CBS. The way the have hung him out to dry in public with rampant (harmful) speculation about what he did or didn’t do while at the same time throwing out words like sexual assault and harassment is ripe for a defamation action.

Unless they have footage showing much more than they showed which was just touching of hair or feet (in public and non sexual) that simply made Kellie uncomfortable, even though she is justified imo, CBS will have to pay.

I was also disappointed though not surprised that Jeff didn’t really address the possibility of that their remedies to correct future situations like this where they will apparently act swiftly and decisively to remove players could be weaponized in future seasons, which is exactly what Missy and Liz did, though they at least had the decency to be honest with production and admit that they really were not bothered by Dan’s behavior even though they led Kellie to believe they were.


I did think CBS did a good job with the Jamal/Jake discussion. It wasn’t drawn out and Jamal was fair, positive, and brief about the whole thing. Pretty cool that they are now roommates. I was surprised Jake didn’t show up though. Seems like something most wouldn’t want to miss