re: Supreme Leader Snoke's identity all but confirmed (spoilers obviously)

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Batman Begins was one of the first superhero movies where the soundtrack didn't stand out to you. They didn't play the James Bond theme a lot in Casino Royale because Bond hadn't fully become "Bond" just yet. The Man of Steel theme is not near as grandiose as William's Superman March. As cool and good as they are, Hans Zimmer scores aren't exactly staples of pop culture.

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I don't think Zimmer is ruining film scores, and I actually really liked the music in Batman Begins a lot. The softer themes played when young Bruce and Rachel are on screen are beautiful and moving, the muted beats playing when Batman is stalking some hired thugs is suspensful, and the climactic battle with Ras is scored
well. And Zimmer built on all of this in The Dark Knight

Because it shits on the OT and the Jedi more than the prequels did.

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That would be interesting. They could approach it with the angle that Anakin Skywalker blood has the ability to balance the force. Naturally, that means it also has the ability to unbalance the force.

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If you think about it, Anakin destroyed both the Jedi Order and the Sith. Yeah, Obi Wan and Yoda were still alive after order 66, but the Jedi Order itself was destroyed. And Anakin technically ended the Sith rule of 2 secession with his and Sidious' death.

The force may have been hindered by the limits & rules the Jedi Order put on it, and by the way that the Sith used it. Maybe the force was always intended to be used by more people than either the Jedi or Sith allowed, and was always able to guide people itself in how to use it, but the Jedi and Sith didn't allow this to happen naturally with the limits and rules they placed on it. Maybe that is what is meant by the force awakening.

I know I'm going out on a limb with that theory, but it would be an interesting twist. I do believe that Lucas' intent for "balancing" the force was removing the dark side from it's control of the galaxy. But without the Sith or Jedi, maybe the force is free to act upon more people, and in more ways than was possible under the Jedi or Sith. There would still be a dark side (Snoke), and a light side (Rey), but the limits of the previous orders are no longer around.

But with that said, I very seriously doubt Disney would be willing to do away with the Jedi since it is so identifiable with the Star Wars franchise, so I'm most likely barking up the wrong tree with this theory.

ETA: I also don't think I'd like to see a Star Wars universe without the Jedi Order, so hopefully this theory I conjured up in my head is way off base.

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I don't think Zimmer is ruining film scores, and I actually really liked the music in Batman Begins a lot. The softer themes played when young Bruce and Rachel are on screen are beautiful and moving, the muted beats playing when Batman is stalking some hired thugs is suspensful, and the climactic battle with Ras is scored

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I don't think he is either. Just saying things are different now in terms of scores.

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"You know all that talk about the dark side and the light side of the Force we've been harping on for 7 movies? Yeah, forget it." Shitting on.

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Or how about "You know all that talk about the dark side and the light side of the Force we've been harping on for 7 movies? Turns out you've been lied to. The dark side exists, but its within us. Its up to you to make the choice."

Then one could delve into why the Jedi lied about the dark/light side.

Or you could be narrow minded and just take everything at face value.

Yea, that would be a twist that would require both sides to lie, which wouldn't make sense. That would be a very easy way for the sith to steal from the Jedi, but they just inexplicably don't do it?

The Jedi's name was Jedi Master Vergere. Here are the quotes I was talking about:

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This is the shameful secret of the Jedi: There is no dark side. The Force is one. The Force is everything and everything is the Force. The Force does not take sides. The Force does not even have sides.

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Light and dark are no more than nomenclature: words that describe how little we understand. What you call the dark side is the raw, unrestrained Force itself: you call the dark side what you find when you give yourself over wholly to the Force. To be a Jedi is to control your passion, but Jedi control limits your power. Greatness requires the surrender of control. Passion that is guided, not walled away. Leave your limits behind. If your surrender leads to slaughter, that is not because the Force has darkness in it. It is because you do. The only dark side you need fear is the one in your own heart.

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Sith? Jedi? Are these the only choices? Dark or light, good or evil? Is there no more to the Force than this? What is the screen on which light and dark cast their shapes and shadows? Where is the ground on which stands good and evil?

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I thought her ideas on the Force were interesting, and pretty eye opening.

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Still doesn't make sense.

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In what way? Vergere wasn't the only Jedi who felt this way. Jedi Knight Bariss Offee:

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Feelings don’t come with ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ labels. You feel how you feel. You are only responsible for how you act. Jedi refer to the ‘light side’ and the ‘dark side’, but really, these are only words, and the Force is beyond words. It is not evil, just as it isn’t good—it simply is what it is.

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But I guess all that is moot since, as you've pointed out multiple times, the EU has been wiped out.

But, you do realize that even in the cannon movies, different Jedi have differing theories on the Force, right? Qui Gon and his belief in the Living Force being a good example.

What the hell are you talking about?