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re: 'Superman' Megathread: Spoilers Allowed! DC News. Releases on Digital on August 15.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 4:00 pm to abellsujr
Posted on 8/3/25 at 4:00 pm to abellsujr
quote:Lex Luthor's ego. Which more times than not is his downfall.
Yeah, I agree about the lex calling out the moves stuff. That was kind of stupid.
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:26 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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His thought to action would be so delayed it would’ve been useless.
Takes like these always make me chuckle. The movie exists in a fantastical world of super geniuses, meta humans, and monsters.
Mr. Terrific can control multiple orbs with a thought, but somehow Lex should to be limited by Bluetooth 5.4 for sake of realism.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:35 pm to ATrillionaire
Surprised nobody complained about Lois being able to drive a spaceship. lol. That was Will Smith in Independence Day level. But who cares? It’s comic book comedy style.
The point of lex being able to do that was because he knew Supermans every move before he did it. It’s not believable in reality. But there’s a point to him being able to do it. It was part of what established lexs obsession with Superman.
The point of lex being able to do that was because he knew Supermans every move before he did it. It’s not believable in reality. But there’s a point to him being able to do it. It was part of what established lexs obsession with Superman.
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:45 pm to abellsujr
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Surprised nobody complained about Lois being able to drive a spaceship. lol. That was Will Smith in Independence Day level. But who cares? It’s comic book comedy style.
Jim Gordon drove the Batmobile and shot down a support for a train track... Maybe we all have these abilities but we'll never get to find out.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 5:47 pm to JoeHackett
quote:Mr. Terrific assured her that he'd made his ship's controls highly intuitive, which would explain how she could sit and immediately be able to fly the ship. Mr. Terrific in the comics is just that smart.
Surprised nobody complained about Lois being able to drive a spaceship. lol. That was Will Smith in Independence Day level. But who cares? It’s comic book comedy style.quote:
Jim Gordon drove the Batmobile and shot down a support for a train track... Maybe we all have these abilities but we'll never get to find out.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:19 pm to abellsujr
The problem is the timing of the voice command thing. No way he’d be able to submit a verbal command to his people then have them relay it Ultraman fast enough in a fight much less someone as fast as Superman.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:31 pm to Madking
I’m not disagreeing. It was really weird the first time I saw it. But after seeing the movie a few times and thinking about it, it wasn’t as dumb as I initially thought. And I get the reasoning for it. Maybe they could’ve done it a different way. But the idea of it was to establish Lexs obsession with Superman.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 6:40 pm to abellsujr
Yea, I think if they had it pre programmed into Ultramans helmet and you could’ve had Lex verbally reciting it as the fight played out it would’ve given the same idea but more practical.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:05 pm to Madking
There had to be some sort of chip in Ultraman controlling his moves.
Lex never said "cross jab and uppercut", dude was yelling battleship (the game) coordinates. So it wasn't a coach to quarterback play call.. more of direct controlling him.
Lex never said "cross jab and uppercut", dude was yelling battleship (the game) coordinates. So it wasn't a coach to quarterback play call.. more of direct controlling him.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:07 pm to vilma4prez
No, he would call out the keys to his minions, they’d type in the command to ultraman’s helmet or implant
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:10 pm to Madking
I wonder if those commands had some relevance?
Like chess moves.
But yeah.. he yelled a letter/number combo and his cronies with joysticks put something in.
It does seem if superman went full speed there is no way Lex could keep up..
Like chess moves.
But yeah.. he yelled a letter/number combo and his cronies with joysticks put something in.
It does seem if superman went full speed there is no way Lex could keep up..
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:17 pm to vilma4prez
I agree, it’s too much time to go from Lex saying it to Ultraman doing it
.,. They commands I thought were just keyboard key designations but I don’t know for sure
.,. They commands I thought were just keyboard key designations but I don’t know for sure
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:24 pm to Madking
So he studied every fight move Superman has done in 3 years.. I guess it's plausible that Lex stayed aggressive and kept Supes on the defense , it works.
And any alternative moves by Superman would be kept in check by the Technician lady.
I think I just talked my way into it making sense.
He just didn't account for the "stupid dog in a cape" going HAM
And any alternative moves by Superman would be kept in check by the Technician lady.
I think I just talked my way into it making sense.
He just didn't account for the "stupid dog in a cape" going HAM
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:33 pm to vilma4prez
Lex had no disadvantages in this movie. He can create universes and black holes, had the ability to clone Superman, don’t know why he didn’t just make more, had free rein to do whatever he wanted and had the most insane tech ever, (nanites basically made the Engineer immortal)
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:45 pm to vilma4prez
I think it’s definitely plausible that Lex would’ve known Superman‘s moves. And we don’t know if this was the first time that Lex had ultraman fight Superman. This was just the first one where he beat him. So this could’ve been practiced a few times in different suits.
But I get the gripe of the way they did it. “1A” “2B”, etc. And the way it showed on screen was Ultraman doing these moves after the commands. It just looked like there was a lot of processing time. It’s possible that there was less processing time than it seemed but the way they showed it looked kind of silly. So I get that complaint. There had to be a better way for them to do that and display it in the movie.
But I get the gripe of the way they did it. “1A” “2B”, etc. And the way it showed on screen was Ultraman doing these moves after the commands. It just looked like there was a lot of processing time. It’s possible that there was less processing time than it seemed but the way they showed it looked kind of silly. So I get that complaint. There had to be a better way for them to do that and display it in the movie.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:46 pm to ATrillionaire
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Mr. Terrific can control multiple orbs with a thought, but somehow Lex should to be limited by Bluetooth 5.4 for sake of realism.
It’s his thought listened by a tech then pushing the sequence then relaying it. Why not just show the program had learned and ultraman was using it?
Posted on 8/3/25 at 7:53 pm to ATrillionaire
“Mr. Terrific can control multiple orbs with a thought, but somehow Lex should to be limited by Bluetooth 5.4 for sake of realism.”
Thats what the movie decided to do, nobody’s making it up. If what you’re suggesting is the case then why not just do that in the movie? They didn’t though, instead they used 2nd party commands via keyboard.
Thats what the movie decided to do, nobody’s making it up. If what you’re suggesting is the case then why not just do that in the movie? They didn’t though, instead they used 2nd party commands via keyboard.
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:01 pm to abellsujr
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in which comic? In which movie? Because it was about the same as it was in Man of steel. Honestly, it was about as good as I think you can make it and still make the character interesting. Otherwise he’s just a plot device like he was in Justice league. It’s a fine line.
MoS had multiple equal powered military trained Kryptonians. I think the powers were dialed back a little much in this movie for my taste. Superman should be a clear step above the rest of them IMO. Doesn’t have to be justice league level but a clear upgrade.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:15 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
quote:and ultraman was also equally powered, but also aided by Lex. And the kryptonians couldn’t even fly in man of steel. General zod could at the end. When he could fly, he kind of kicked Superman’s arse up until the very end. When somehow Superman got behind him and got him in a choke hold
MoS had multiple equal powered military trained Kryptonians.
quote:the only thing that kicked his arse was ultraman. The engineer would not have stood a chance if Ultraman wasn’t there. They were both fighting Superman at the same time. And the Kaiju he wasn’t even trying to kill. He was trying to keep it alive. You can argue that that was stupid, but you know. I don’t think it’s as bad as what you’re thinking. But Ultraman did kick Superman’s arse in the beginning and it was a very tough fight at the end.
I think the powers were dialed back a little much in this movie for my taste. Superman should be a clear step above the rest of them IMO. Doesn’t have to be justice league level but a clear upgrade.
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:47 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Mr. Terrific assured her that he'd made his ship's controls highly intuitive, which would explain how she could sit and immediately be able to fly the ship.
She even referred to his comment about it being intuitive... just before she made it fall off the Daily Planet.
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