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re: Sulu to Be Portrayed as Gay Man in Star Trek Beyond

Posted on 7/8/16 at 11:01 am to
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31318 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 11:01 am to
George is pretty out there, but he's pretty reasonable when it comes to this stuff. This is shoehorning something into the story just for the sake of doing it.

People really should just watch Brooklyn 99 if they want to see how to portray a multi cultrual cast. Those guys get it extremely well.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69309 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 11:13 am to
I forgot he had a kid. I always assumed he was a closeted homosexual.

I guess time travel really does make you gay. No wonder Marty didn't bang his mom...
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 11:15 am
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11905 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 11:36 am to
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George is pretty out there, but he's pretty reasonable when it comes to this stuff. This is shoehorning something into the story just for the sake of doing it. 



Not only that, but it's oddly personal. They made Sulu gay as some sort of homage to George, but I'm surprised they didn't get his blessing first.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 12:12 pm to
Simon Pegg (who wrote the new movie) responds. LINK

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I have huge love and respect for George Takei, his heart, courage and humour are an inspiration. However, with regards to his thoughts on our Sulu, I must respectfully disagree with him. He’s right, it is unfortunate, it’s unfortunate that the screen version of the most inclusive, tolerant universe in science fiction hasn’t featured an LGBT character until now. We could have introduced a new gay character, but he or she would have been primarily defined by their sexuality, seen as the ‘gay character’, rather than simply for who they are, and isn’t that tokenism? Justin Lin, Doug Jung and I loved the idea of it being someone we already knew because the audience have a pre-existing opinion of that character as a human being, unaffected by any prejudice. Their sexual orientation is just one of many personal aspects, not the defining characteristic. Also, the audience would infer that there has been an LGBT presence in the Trek Universe from the beginning (at least in the Kelvin timeline), that a gay hero isn’t something new or strange. It’s also important to note that at no point do we suggest that our Sulu was ever closeted, why would he need to be? It’s just hasn’t come up before. I don’t believe Gene Roddenberry’s decision to make the prime timeline’s Enterprise crew straight was an artistic one, more a necessity of the time. Trek rightly gets a lot of love for featuring the first interracial kiss on US television, but Plato’s Stepchildren was the lowest rated episode ever. The viewing audience weren’t open minded enough at the time and it must have forced Roddenberry to modulate his innovation. His mantra was always ‘infinite diversity in infinite combinations’. If he could have explored Sulu’s sexuality with George, he no doubt would have. Roddenberry was a visionary and a pioneer but we choose our battles carefully. Our Trek is an alternate timeline with alternate details. Whatever magic ingredient determines our sexuality was different for Sulu in our timeline. I like this idea because it suggests that in a hypothetical multiverse, across an infinite matrix of alternate realities, we are all LGBT somewhere. Whatever dimension we inhabit, we all just want to be loved by those we love (and I love George Takei). I can’t speak for every reality but that must surely true of this one. Live long and prosper.

Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 12:35 pm to
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Oh shut the frick up.


Oh, did I hurt your wittle feelings?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 12:47 pm to
It's Star Trek


Liberal political and social issues are kinda their thing.

Just wait for the new series. The captain will more than likely be a minority gay woman
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:22 pm to
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I don’t believe Gene Roddenberry’s decision to make the prime timeline’s Enterprise crew straight was an artistic one, more a necessity of the time. Trek rightly gets a lot of love for featuring the first interracial kiss on US television, but Plato’s Stepchildren was the lowest rated episode ever. The viewing audience weren’t open minded enough at the time and it must have forced Roddenberry to modulate his innovation.


He is right...people were freaking out over an interracial kiss...they would have lost their minds if spock or someone else had been gay on the show as well ...
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
7575 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:28 pm to
I don't have a problem with it but if George doesn't like it then I back his opinion.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67466 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:42 pm to
Met Takei at the bar in the Bourboun House years ago. A flamer, but a really nice guy. And very funny.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78250 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:46 pm to
its called a reboot.

I am not a huge trekkie but i am pretty sure Spock wasn't sticking it to Uhura in the original shows/movies
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:47 pm to
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in a hypothetical multiverse, across an infinite matrix of alternate realities, we are all LGBT somewhere


What is with this brain damage? Seriously.

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I am not a huge trekkie but i am pretty sure Spock wasn't sticking it to Uhura in the original shows/movies


Good point. Not a fan of that, either.
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 1:51 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63079 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 2:12 pm to
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Oh, did I hurt your wittle feelings?
No, you're an idiot spouting the same exact shite that every wannabe "forward thinking" idiot spouts when these threads get started.
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 2:13 pm
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