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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:08 am to RLDSC FAN
From Reddit 
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Critics next June
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:08 am to RLDSC FAN
Will Smith is the most positive thing I'm hearing about the movie.
ETA: He likes Joker also, so that's good.
ETA: He likes Joker also, so that's good.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:10 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:09 am to RLDSC FAN
I will go into WW fully expecting bad reviews, period. I will have that mentality until proven otherwise.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:11 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:
"The movie's got to do $750 million, $800 million to break even. If they get anywhere close to that, they'll consider it a win."
gonna have to have some serious overseas legs. i am thinking we are going to see another BvS level drop after opening wknd.
i usually like ayers stuff. i even enjoyed Street Kings and Harsh Times lol.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:13 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:14 am to 1999
quote:Is this also true with SS? I thought that was the word for BvS?
"The movie's got to do $750 million, $800 million to break even. If they get anywhere close to that, they'll consider it a win."
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:17 am to abellsujr
this is what they are saying for SS. i always heard a billion for BvS.
how you get in that situation with a lesser known property like SS is beyond me.
how you get in that situation with a lesser known property like SS is beyond me.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:19 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:20 am to 1999
Do you have a link? I remember clearly that the word was $800 million for BvS, which many were actually disputing if it was that high.
I haven't seen anything on SS.
quote:LINK
'Batman v Superman' needs $800M to break even
I haven't seen anything on SS.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:22 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:20 am to abellsujr
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:24 am to Thracken13
What's funny is that I had it open in another tab and I wasn't even watching it. I was listening and typing his thoughts. When I finally went over to look, I was like, WTF?!
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:25 am to abellsujr
im with you. i find it very hard to believe it needs 800M to break even. thats fricking insane.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:26 am to abellsujr
sorry i worded that wrong. a billion was what bvs would have to make to be considered a success. yes 800 mill was the floor just to break even for bvs.
of course we are basing this all of what studios tell us the budgets are. i doubt they are 100% truthful when it comes to that.
of course we are basing this all of what studios tell us the budgets are. i doubt they are 100% truthful when it comes to that.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:27 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:29 am to 1999
quote:
sorry i worded that wrong. a billion was what bvs would have to make to be considered a success. yes 800 mill was the floor just to break even for bvs.
Stick with your original figures. Hyperbole is the norm for discussion of these movies.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:29 am to 1999
Well, that being the case, I see no way SS needs $800 million to break even. Not even $600 million. I'd say it's at most $400-$500 million, and that's with reshoots. I think the budget was $175 million.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:29 am to BlacknGold
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im with you. i find it very hard to believe it needs 800M to break even. thats fricking insane.
They had to pay the Smith family as well for their "positive spectatorship" on the set when Will was filming. Their family impacts everything THAT much.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:38 am to abellsujr
That's what the thr "insider" claims. He could be from Wb or he could be someone with an ax to grind. Who knows. But I wouldn't be surprised to find out the budget is well over 175. Who knows what marketing costs.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:38 am to abellsujr
quote:
Well, that being the case, I see no way SS needs $800 million to break even. Not even $600 million. I'd say it's at most $400-$500 million, and that's with reshoots. I think the budget was $175 million.
The only thing that any financial "failure" of this movie would result in would be Ayer and some of the stars falling out of the DC movieverse. It's a part of a huge franchise machine that is in full motion. Considering that the movie was pretty much in the can when the BvS lesson came into play, the powers that be will take their lumps and move on.
Like BvS, they'll see which actors/characters were fan favorites and earmark them to return in future films. It's a huge process at this point. It's not a make or break moment.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:45 am to 1999
quote:I don't doubt that the budget was over $175 million, but even at $275 million, it's still needs just $550 million to break even ( if you double it for marketing, which is per usual). I'm just curious what "insider" is saying $800 million.
That's what the thr "insider" claims. He could be from Wb or he could be someone with an ax to grind. Who knows. But I wouldn't be surprised to find out the budget is well over 175. Who knows what marketing costs.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:48 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:49 am to RLDSC FAN
The first review is actually quite funny:
I like good movies, not just just putting shite together because us fans want to see it. B v S was that kinda movie, it looks like this one may be as well. I hate it too.
I just don't get it. You lose on first time viewers, and especially repeat viewers, when you don't take the time to make it something real, narratively and thematically. How much money did B v S lose on non-repeat views once people realized how shitty it was as a REAL movie rather than just a couple of comic characters together? Most of the Marvel movies built a foundation and then thematically found the right mix - or got rid of the people who weren't doing it right. Same can be said for the Star Wars folks, so far.
quote:
"If you know someone you really can't stand - not someone you dislike, not someone who rubs you the wrong way, but someone you really loathe and detest - send that person a ticket for "Suicide Squad."
I like good movies, not just just putting shite together because us fans want to see it. B v S was that kinda movie, it looks like this one may be as well. I hate it too.
I just don't get it. You lose on first time viewers, and especially repeat viewers, when you don't take the time to make it something real, narratively and thematically. How much money did B v S lose on non-repeat views once people realized how shitty it was as a REAL movie rather than just a couple of comic characters together? Most of the Marvel movies built a foundation and then thematically found the right mix - or got rid of the people who weren't doing it right. Same can be said for the Star Wars folks, so far.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:56 am to abellsujr
quote:
I don't doubt that the budget was over $175 million, but even at $275 million, it's still needs just $550 million to break even ( if you double it for marketing, which is per usual). I'm just curious what "insider" is saying $800 million.
I think the rule of thumb is that the studio takes home about half of the box office, so a $550 million all in budget including marketing would need to make $1.1 billion to break even. So I would assume the $800 figure is based on a $400 budget/marketing... which seems reasonable.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:56 am
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