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re: Storylines from great movies you’d take out
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:55 pm to athenslife101
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:55 pm to athenslife101
The Hobbit: everything not in the book and make it one movie, especially the elf on dwarf action.
Star Wars: The Last Jedi: remove everything and pretend it never happened. Even the main plotline sucks.
Braveheart: doesn't need the romance between Wallace and the princess.
Godfather book version: for f*&$% sake take out the stuff with the girl w/ the huge vag.
Star Wars: The Last Jedi: remove everything and pretend it never happened. Even the main plotline sucks.
Braveheart: doesn't need the romance between Wallace and the princess.
Godfather book version: for f*&$% sake take out the stuff with the girl w/ the huge vag.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:59 pm to athenslife101
The inevitable love story in so many movies that have nothing to do with the plot, they just seem to be mandatory. Especially in the 80's.
Example- Top Gun
Someone mentioned Temple of Doom with this same scenario, but I think the dynamic of the two characters made it a better movie than if it was just Indy and Shortround.
Example- Top Gun
Someone mentioned Temple of Doom with this same scenario, but I think the dynamic of the two characters made it a better movie than if it was just Indy and Shortround.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:07 pm to athenslife101
Faye Dunaway banging the old guy in Network
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:13 pm to rebelrouser
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Braveheart: doesn't need the romance between Wallace and the princess.
yeah that definitely seemed forced in there. that said, it was a pretty nice little frick you to Longshanks when she told him she was knocked up with a kid not of his line (implied that Longshanks knew it was also WW's) and he couldnt speak anymore to do anything about it.
but yeah, overall that was a weak subplot and it kind of weakened the "doing it for Murron" aspect too.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:15 pm to deeprig9
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Someone mentioned Temple of Doom with this same scenario, but I think the dynamic of the two characters made it a better movie than if it was just Indy and Shortround.
the problem with Willie was that the actress was annoying and didnt fit the role that great. i dont have a problem with the storyline though.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 4:12 pm to Sam Quint
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the problem with Willie was that the actress was annoying and didnt fit the role that great. i dont have a problem with the storyline though.
She was the prissy girly showbiz gal that was the only fish out of water in the whole story, and I think she played it great. Who did you want in the role, Katharine Hepburn?
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 1/22/24 at 4:25 pm to athenslife101
Everything about this little walking vagina...
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:11 pm to athenslife101
Demi Moore in a few good men.
Character was terribly written and is not needed.
Character was terribly written and is not needed.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:41 pm to contraryman
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Demi Moore in a few good men.
Character was terribly written and is not needed.
She was needed as a backboard for Jessup's initial character reveal as a cold hearted a-hole piece of shite with the whole "have you ever had a blowjob from a superior officer?" scene.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:13 pm to deeprig9
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She was needed as a backboard for Jessup's initial character reveal as a cold hearted a-hole piece of shite with the whole "have you ever had a blowjob from a superior officer?" scene.
You also needed the criminal defense contrast. Cruise was a dealmaker known for quickly securing a good plea bargain in every case who was just serving his time in JAG until he moved onto Big Law. Moore was an idealist who believed in her clients and wanted them to have their day in court. They assigned the case to Cruise because they wanted it to quietly go away but she had to keep prying it open to have her Atticus Finch moment. Much like his character in the Firm, Cruise ends up learning something important about the law and himself - ie, character development. We have to see the process.
Speaking of Rob Reiner, I will add a subplot that actually did get cut. The original script for Good Will Hunting contained a subplot where the NSA didn't like Matt Damon's antics and rejections so they kept pressing him through more covert means and he responded accordingly and it resulted in the government trying to kill him and him having to use his wits, his gutter background friends and the new girl he just met to elude a bunch of secret agents and assassins. Basically the entire third act of the movie was an action thriller. At some point the script wound up in Rob Reiner's hands and he made them cut out all of the action/adventure stuff and focus on the psychiatrist and girlfriend as the inner source of conflict for the character. Obviously the right call. It's weird to think about Good Will Hunting morphing into Three Days of the Condor about half way through.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:39 pm to RLDSC FAN
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However, the Julia Roberts impersonation scene is so bad. I have no idea what Soderbergh was doing there.
100%. Do something like Bryce Dallas Howard pretending to be Jessica Chastain and that part of the movie is fine. Having Julia Roberts play a character who conveniently looks like Julia Roberts thus aiding the heist was terrible. It's so absurd and out of place that it almost feels like a bit that was originally cut from an Austin Powers movie.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:22 pm to athenslife101
That conflict was crucial for tension between the two leads. But when I saw the movie, I was surprised and disappointed that Pearce’s character actually banged her. It was overkill.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 10:40 pm to VOR
Bill the Butcher in Gangs of New York. I’d like to know more about Cameron Diaz’s character and her back story.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:40 pm to Honest Tune
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In the movie Fargo… the call from Mike (Japanese guy) and Marge meeting him for dinner, then him being a total creep after her friend reveals he was lying about his ex-wife.
I watched this one again two weeks ago, so it was recently on my mind. What was the point?
Everyone in that movie is broken to a degree in different ways but Marge.
I think it is just another version of brokenness and to see how the world looks through Marge's eyes... Surrounded by incompetence, evil, sloth (her husband), nitwits, dimwits and losers.
It strengthens the POV that Marge is unknowingly above everyone else and doesn't understand the fragile nature or motivations of humans.
That's how I see that side story...she can't escape it...even at a Radisson.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:34 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The young Vito Corleone storyline and the present day Michael Corleone storyline in Godfather Part II should have been split into two separate movies instead of seesawing back and forth in one movie.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 6:37 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Everyone in that movie is broken to a degree in different ways but Marge. I think it is just another version of brokenness and to see how the world looks through Marge's eyes... Surrounded by incompetence, evil, sloth (her husband), nitwits, dimwits and losers. It strengthens the POV that Marge is unknowingly above everyone else and doesn't understand the fragile nature or motivations of humans. That's how I see that side story...she can't escape it...even at a Radisson.
Good breakdown. Marge is, in fact, amazing.
Fargo is so damn good that really the Mike subplot doesn’t even feel that out of place. It just had me questioning the “why”.
Side note: the Roger Deakins cinematography is friggin amazing. He created dread with the snowy road shots.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 6:38 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 6:53 am to Honest Tune
Rene Russo in Major League. Give me 30 more minutes of banter with the boys.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:45 am to titmouse
I didn’t mind her involvement. It gave some backstory on Jake and showed his softer side plus motivation.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 7:54 am to athenslife101
Not a movie, but the Tony/Dr. Melfi interactions became really tedious in about season 2.
I can see him meeting with her occasionally but David Chase beat that relationship to death.
I can see him meeting with her occasionally but David Chase beat that relationship to death.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:26 am to Dire Wolf
quote:That's William Holden. Love that guy. Legend has it that he demanded top billing in The Towering Inferno. Above Newman and McQueen. Then sadly, blacked out drunk in his bedroom and hit his head on a table. Bled out while unconscious. Wasn't found for a few days.
Faye Dunaway banging the old guy in Network
Also, his wife in Network won an Oscar for Supporting Actress and has a record for the shortest screen time to win an Oscar. Network is a cool movie.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 8:28 am
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