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re: Star Wars unveils first look of its first trans woman stormtrooper called 'Sister'

Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:32 pm to
I quote you all the time and then you cry about it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70817 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:35 pm to
Dishonesty
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:35 pm to
Sammy you seem to be really invested in defending injection of Letter People bullshite in to Star Wars. Why is that?

I mean, I know clones made from the same genetic material of a male warrior will somehow produce a....female. Because reasons.
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 10:37 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:49 pm to
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Sammy you seem to be really invested in defending injection of Letter People bullshite in to Star Wars. Why is that?


did i start the thread? You see me begging for this anywhere?

I dont need this. But I also don’t hate it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70817 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:51 pm to
You’re so dishonest, you started the argument
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:58 pm to
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You’re so dishonest, you started the argument


What was it before? oh right an echo chamber
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:44 am to
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I mean, I know clones made from the same genetic material of a male warrior will somehow produce a....female. Because reasons

Omega has been around for over a decade now
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 5:08 am to
I’d bet my last dollar you have zero idea what Marxist means. I’d bet my second to last you don’t have a degree.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47254 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 5:56 am to
You're 0-2.

Keep going.

*ETA - You need to realize that there's more to the world than what you see from CNN or MSNBC. Not everything that's important gets mentioned by NPR. The core of Identity politics is in fact the intent to divide people up into groups to fight against or with each other for a common cause. Once you reduce a person to a check box, that's well on the way to having them give up their own personal identity, and see themselves as a part of a collective.


You catching on yet?
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 6:00 am
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24922 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:28 am to
That is just dumb
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:51 am to
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The core of Identity politics is in fact the intent to divide people up into groups to fight against or with each other for a common cause. Once you reduce a person to a check box, that's well on the way to having them give up their own personal identity, and see themselves as a part of a collective.


You catching on yet?

As much as you throw the word groomer around you seem to be a big fan of identity politics.

I think all politics are pretty stupid and have no time for them. No vote I've ever made has ever changed shite, so why waste energy focusing on them? I focus on the things I can control, what movies/shows Hollywood puts out isn't one of them. I just watch to have something to do before bed when there aren't sports on.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2214 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:02 am to
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I think all politics are pretty stupid and have no time for them. No vote I've ever made has ever changed shite, so why waste energy focusing on them? I focus on the things I can control, what movies/shows Hollywood puts out isn't one of them. I just watch to have something to do before bed when there aren't sports on.

You are an idiot. Politics has ramifications for every aspect of your life.
You are a proven clown and as this post demonstrates, a fricking liar.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:06 am to
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Politics has ramifications for every aspect of your life.

So does the sun, doesn't mean you have any control over them.

If you wanna run for politics or canvas or whatever be my guest, noone is stopping you.

Bitching about it on the movie board aint changing shite.

You're like a politician ranting about climate change while flying a private jet around. If you actually believed/cared about this stuff you would do something about it in Hollywood or work in politics instead of just posting on the movie board.

Nothing worse than being preached to by someone who isn't doing anything about what they are preaching.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 7:20 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47254 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:54 am to
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As much as you throw the word groomer around you seem to be a big fan of identity politics.


Your ability to arrive at the exact opposite conclusion of what I was saying is fascinating.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:03 am to
You are what you eat.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38674 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:57 am to
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that trans people want to be accepted?

I think that’s the loud part.


Just to be clear - Star Wars is a tool to create acceptance in culture?


It's not a story, or a universe or a narrative. It's not built for fun, or interesting reasons. It's not something to create a completely different world of adventure that people can experience in a variety of ways.


Star Wars exists to change opinions, to make sure we subvert other forms of teaching, to change the way kids think.

That is the purpose of Star Wars, or really all of art? To change cultural opinions subversively?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:59 am to
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Just to be clear - Star Wars is a tool to create acceptance in culture?


eh idk. I see it more as barometer of what society is thinking than a tool that’s changing is.

A temperature readying of the pot vs the spoon stirring it.

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It's not a story, or a universe or a narrative. It's not built for fun, or interesting reasons. It's not something to create a completely different world of adventure that people can experience in a variety of ways.


I think it’s all those things, which is why u don’t understand why you’re upset about the trans character.

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Star Wars exists to change opinions, to make sure we subvert other forms of teaching, to change the way kids think. That is the purpose of Star Wars, or really all of art? To change cultural opinions subversively?


I don’t think SW is going to change anyone’s opinions. the only thing i’ve seen genuinely change people’s opinions is interaction with others humans.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38674 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:23 am to
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eh idk. I see it more as barometer of what society is thinking than a tool that’s changing is.

A temperature readying of the pot vs the spoon stirring it.



So do we have to go and reimagine The Iliad and make sure that we update its "cultural barometerr" to better reflect our times?

Must all art continuously be updated to make sure it aligns with the current perspective?

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I think it’s all those things, which is why u don’t understand why you’re upset about the trans character.



Inserting political acceptance ideals into a text will automatically move it away from being something created to live and breathe on its own.

Political Art is not really art in the classic sense. It's propaganda.

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I don’t think SW is going to change anyone’s opinions. the only thing i’ve seen genuinely change people’s opinions is interaction with others humans.


But you said it should? It should create acceptance, and specifically that it's ok to change the way kids think.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
15506 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:28 am to
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Omega has been around for over a decade now


First appearance in "Aftermath", aired May 4, 2021
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:29 am to
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So do we have to go and reimagine The Iliad and make sure that we update its "cultural barometerr" to better reflect our times?


They didn’t change and reimagine star wars.

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Must all art continuously be updated to make sure it aligns with the current perspective?


I generally don’t think we should change art. But we’re talking about an active franchise. It’s not static, and it’s not like SW ever made a point that trans people don’t exist in their world.

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Inserting political acceptance ideals into a text will automatically move it away from being something created to live and breathe on its own.


I think you’re going to have to elaborate on that.

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Political Art is not really art in the classic sense. It's propaganda.


I don’t believe that’s true at all. Is Guernica not art? Are all those big marble statues of roman emperors not art? Are all those anti-war songs not art?

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But you said it should? It should create acceptance, and specifically that it's ok to change the way kids think.



did I?




This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 11:31 am
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