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re: Star Wars: TROS - Non spoiler reviews and box office watch - Passes 500 mil, domestically

Posted on 1/1/20 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 1:01 pm to
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I’m assuming it is a Scott article from Forbes.


Scott Mendelson.

I don't think a 1.227 billion prediction as an average is particularly odd. TLJ triggered a lot of backlash and Solo didn't do well at the box office.

His average prediction is slightly lower than TLJ. In light of the above factors, I don't think that's unreasonable at all. In that context, only 1 billion would be disappointing, but ROS is tracking higher than that.

Right now, most long term projections see it close to TLJ, which was over 1.3 billion. That wouldn't be an incredible success, but it wouldn't be disappointing for Disney.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 1:17 pm to
I agree. 1.25 would not be a disappointment at all, but it is, of course, a sign of missed opportunities. KK, RJ, and TLJ are the cause. There's no reason Disney couldn't have made 2+ on both TLJ and TRoS and 1b on Solo.

With all that said, I am going to see TRoS next week with other family members. I'm really enjoying this film.
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 1:31 pm to
I think it's similar to the prequels. Phantom Menace hit 1 billion. AOTC sucked and was in the 600's. Revenge of the Sith was better, but only rebounded to the 800 mil range.

Both trilogies opened huge on Star Wars being back, then had a second film that dragged interest down hard. That left a hole for the third film to dig out from.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 1:33 pm to
Yea Scott will never say anything bad about starwars.

This thing is not getting to 1.25
It’s going to sit around 1.0

You also can’t just take one crazy low number to justify a median that’s silly. Do the mean and get back to me.

Regardless this is not okay for Disney no matter how it’s spun.
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted by The Easter Bunny
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 1:34 pm to
Agree with you, I think it finishes short of $1.1B
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 1:50 pm to
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This thing is not getting to 1.25
It’s going to sit around 1.0


I disagree. All recent projections have it close to TLJ's track, which wound up at 1.3 bil.

It doesn't have to close fast to get there either. TLJ didn't have tremendous legs, and ROS has basically already erased making 50 mil less on its opening weekend vs TLJ.

I'd think it winds up somewhere between 1.15 and 1.35.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 1:51 pm to
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think it's similar to the prequels. Phantom Menace hit 1 billion. AOTC sucked and was in the 600's. Revenge of the Sith was better, but only rebounded to the 800 mil range.

Both trilogies opened huge on Star Wars being back, then had a second film that dragged interest down hard. That left a hole for the third film to dig out from.




Sad but true. For more than a decade I thought AotC was the worst possible issue Star Wars would ever have. Then came along TLJ. Damn. What could have been!!!
Posted by lsufan9193969700
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 1:52 pm to
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I'd think it winds up somewhere between 1.15 and 1.35

This
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 2:24 pm to
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disagree. All recent projections have it close to TLJ's track, which wound up at 1.3 bil


It won’t come close to 1.3b. It’s dropping fast. It’ll be lucky to hit 1.1
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 2:29 pm to
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Gitesh Pandya
@GiteshPandya

#StarWarsTheRiseofSkywalker  is all set to cross $400M at domestic #boxoffice today. TUE saw $13.1M for #NewYearsEve boosting total to $390.6M. Will become the 6th film from 2019 to break $400M - the most ever in a single year. 2018 had 4 and 2017/2016/2015 all had 3 each.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 2:33 pm to
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All recent projections have it close to TLJ's track, which wound up at 1.3 bil.


Well that’s not true.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 2:39 pm to
Mendelson at Forbes sucks at predictions
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 2:46 pm to
From 12/29:

"Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker earned $72 million in its second weekend of domestic release. That’s -59.4% from its $177.383 million opening, giving it a still-strong $361.8 million ten-day total. That’s slightly under the $368 million ten-day cume for The Last Jedi."

It's currently over Rogue One, which was slightly over a billion, and a bit behind TLJ.

That's why I was saying 1.15 to 1.35. If it paces TLJ which did not have great legs, it should be over 1.2. A really good showing pushes 1.3.

We'll see more after this weekend.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 3:11 pm to
I think New Years will be about $15-16mn and cume by then to be $404-405mil.

For domestic, If it follows;
TFA $515mn
TLJ $499mn
RO $502mn
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 5:00 pm to
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TLJ didn't have tremendous legs, and ROS has basically already erased making 50 mil less on its opening weekend vs TLJ.


It erased most of that 50 due to the fact Christmas was later during the release of TLJ, in reality it hasn't made up very much, it's 33 mil behind TLJ including yesterday, and the next few days of release for TLJ were part of the Christmas holidays, so it is going to fall even further behind this week.
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:05 pm to
Exactly. It’s going to have more in common with rogue one than TLJ at this point.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:49 pm to
Just finished seeing it tonight. Went in expecting to be really disappointed, but came out surprised I liked it. It had its flaws but considering the shite sandwich JJ was given, he performed admirably.

Hopefully it's a precursor for an upward trend in the quality of other star wars films.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:31 pm to
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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker passed the $800M global mark on Wednesday. The film grossed an estimated $13.5M internationally on Wednesday. International total stands at $407.9M, global total stands at $815.4M.


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New Year's Day Actuals: TROS $16.79M, J:TNL $10.77M, Little Women $5.17M, Frozen 2 $4.95M

u/TheNotorious478h

New Year's Day Actuals (as per Jedi Jat/Charlie from BOt)
  Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker $16.79M
Jumanji: The Next Level $10.77M
Little Women $5.17M
Frozen 2 $4.95M
Spies in Disguise $4.30M
Knives Out $3.43M
Uncut Gems $3.05M
Bombshell $1.48M
Cats $1.24M
Richard Jewell $1.12M




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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker passed the $400M domestic mark after grossing an estimated $16.9M on Wednesday. 13-Day total stands at $407.5M.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 12:33 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 5:33 pm to
Slate is mad

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Kelly Marie Tran has one minute and 16 seconds of screen time as Rose Tico in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, and no one has yet produced a convincing explanation for why that’s the case. The movie’s co-writer, Chris Terrio, took a stab at it in a recent interview with Awards Daily, insisting that he and Abrams “adore” Tran and that “the last thing we were doing was deliberately trying to sideline Rose.” According to Terrio, Tran’s character—who was the subject of severe backlash after The Last Jedi—does not go on the main quest because the writers wanted someone to stay behind with Leia, appearing using repurposed footage of the late Carrie Fisher?. Those scenes of Rose and Leia then “fell out” of the movie because they “turned out to not meet the standard of photorealism that we’d hoped for.”



LINK

Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 5:47 pm to
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Slate is mad


Mad is dumb, but if Abrams and Terrio agreed with the angry portion of the fan base that Rose's character was a negative on TLJ, they missed an opportunity to write her as a better one. Kicking her to the curb at the beginning of ROS is obvious and feels weird. It's one of several moments in the film that feel like a direct response to TLJ, and that heavily contributes to this film's lack of quality. Responding to a previous story instead of trying at all to build from it, and thus not making much of your own story in the process, is a bad strategy for making a watchable product.
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