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re: Star Wars: The Phantom Meancd Rewatch Tonight, 6PM Eastern, 5 Central
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:09 pm to Bmath
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:09 pm to Bmath
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Does this involve killing younglings?
The specific act I have in mind is Anakin being sent by the Emperor to a certain place, that he has also tipped off both Maul and Mace Windu. He walks in on Mace and Maul having a duel, and Anakin decides to kill them both and blame Mace's death on Maul. He kills them both, but is caught by his former apprentice, who Mace took under his wing after Anakin is discharged from the Jedi Order simply to spite him. Anakin finds himself unwilling to kill her and lets her flee. His former apprentice informs the rest of the Jedi Order of his treachery, and eventually the Emperor himself brutally murders Anakin's former apprentice in front of him for not doing what was necessary to secure the Empire.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 8:31 pm
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:19 pm to OMLandshark
You really think that sounds better than slaughtering group of children for no reason?
Because I do.
Because I do.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:28 pm to Breesus
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You really think that sounds better than slaughtering group of children for no reason?
As far as a single scene is concerned, that is the single biggest missed opportunity in the prequels. A 3 way duel is very difficult to set up, but when you pull it off, it is glorious and would have been the best lightsaber duel of all time.
It's clear from the start that Mace is only meant to be the Jedi Anakin would kill to cement himself in the Dark Side. Yes, Anakin is responsible for Mace's death, but in the prequels he's crying about it the whole damn time, doesn't have an overwhelming motive to kill him, and Palpatine directly kills Mace for him. Yes, it's to "save his wife", but he also knows that Palpatine knows this and is completely manipulating him. Why hasn't he thought that most likely that Palpatine is powerful enough to cloud his mind with bullshite? He should have killed Mace simply over malice and vengeance, a true seduction of the Dark Side. Instead he's crying like a bitch the whole time and they very awkwardly set it up.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:53 pm to OMLandshark
Anakin's entire story line in the prequels took Vader from one of the greatest and most ruthless villains of all time to a whiny wimpy little bitch who doesn't think for himself.
The ruthless villain who tortures his own daughter and almost kills his own son, is just some little punk carrying out orders.
Rather than an absolutely powerful right hand to The Emperor he is merely a pawn.
Rather than the most powerful Jedi of all time turned Dark by a lust for power and authority manipulated by The Emperor and then trained by him, he's instead just some silly little bitch.
I just finished Phantom Menace. God how I hate these prequels. Every fricking scene. I hate them. If there was such a thing as the force, these prequels would generate enough hate to turn anyone to the Dark Side.
That doesn't even start on Obi-Wan, Yoda, and the Jedi in general.
That is all.
The ruthless villain who tortures his own daughter and almost kills his own son, is just some little punk carrying out orders.
Rather than an absolutely powerful right hand to The Emperor he is merely a pawn.
Rather than the most powerful Jedi of all time turned Dark by a lust for power and authority manipulated by The Emperor and then trained by him, he's instead just some silly little bitch.
I just finished Phantom Menace. God how I hate these prequels. Every fricking scene. I hate them. If there was such a thing as the force, these prequels would generate enough hate to turn anyone to the Dark Side.
That doesn't even start on Obi-Wan, Yoda, and the Jedi in general.
That is all.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:01 pm to Civildawg
I've definitely done combat training not with swords but with something similar and they are very specific about where you strike and how you strike. It ain't elegant and it's very quick and it makes the obi wan fight with Vader so much more realistic.
What are light sabers. Are they meant to be dual handed. Fencing swords. I get its preference but everything about how the sword is designed comes into play. We almost always see light sabers being dual handed. With a weapon like that, your going to keep the weapon at high ready to strike down. Swinging from side to side is not effective. It's easily dodge able, is excess motion, and leaves you vulnerable.
What are light sabers. Are they meant to be dual handed. Fencing swords. I get its preference but everything about how the sword is designed comes into play. We almost always see light sabers being dual handed. With a weapon like that, your going to keep the weapon at high ready to strike down. Swinging from side to side is not effective. It's easily dodge able, is excess motion, and leaves you vulnerable.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:02 pm to athenslife101
I think of that fight like the fight in princess bride.
The beginning is more testing each other and showing off skill than it is trying to kill the other.
It makes you hate it a tiny bit less.
The beginning is more testing each other and showing off skill than it is trying to kill the other.
It makes you hate it a tiny bit less.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:09 pm to Breesus
I'm pretty convinced that the X-Men prequels were conceived by a bunch of producers and screenwriters getting drunk at a bar and going on a rant on how they think the prequels should have been. They're simply great, and if you substituted mutations for Jedi, and Anakin and Obi Wan for Magneto and Professor X, then it is perfectly how it should have gone.
Put an overarching villain with Maul, but Episode I should have featured a powerful crime lord who wishes to wipe out the Jedi (ie: Sebastian Shaw). Episode II should have had the Clones wiping out almost all the Jedi and very apparently destroying the Galaxy/world (ie: the Sentinels). And in the final film, the Emperor comes out and offers Vader incredible power only to be consumed by it (ie: Apocalypse's and Magneto's relationship).
They knew they had good ideas, and two very similar characters to work with in Professor X and Magneto. It really seems to me at the end of the trilogy, Vaughn and Singer will drop the mike and say this was what the prequels should have really been.
Put an overarching villain with Maul, but Episode I should have featured a powerful crime lord who wishes to wipe out the Jedi (ie: Sebastian Shaw). Episode II should have had the Clones wiping out almost all the Jedi and very apparently destroying the Galaxy/world (ie: the Sentinels). And in the final film, the Emperor comes out and offers Vader incredible power only to be consumed by it (ie: Apocalypse's and Magneto's relationship).
They knew they had good ideas, and two very similar characters to work with in Professor X and Magneto. It really seems to me at the end of the trilogy, Vaughn and Singer will drop the mike and say this was what the prequels should have really been.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:29 pm to Breesus
But you see, they were testing each other in A New Hope. Very little energy exerted and a lot of strategy. People very much underestimate how tiring that stuff is. The pace of fighting in A Phantom Menace would have exhausted anyone, Jedi or not within 6-7 minutes max if their in peak condition. The adrenaline exhausts you.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:35 pm to OMLandshark
I absolutely love the new X men movies. I think they're fantastic and I will say shamelessly they're my favorite superhero movies.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:36 pm to athenslife101
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And I am at least am watching.
You picked a time too early for almost anyone else and ended up the only person watching, so much fail, why watch at 5pm when most are commuting home/
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:51 pm to Napoleon
Well, it was a success for me!
I'll make the next one later but when. On a Friday. 8E,7C. 9E/8C.
I chose 6 because it means I've been off work for an hour and will have eaten and have time between studying and Monday Night Football in all honesty.
I'll make the next one later but when. On a Friday. 8E,7C. 9E/8C.
I chose 6 because it means I've been off work for an hour and will have eaten and have time between studying and Monday Night Football in all honesty.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:23 pm to athenslife101
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Well, it was a success for me!
Well, that's narcissistic as hell. People fricking work. Even on your Eastern Timezone, 6:00 is too damn early. Most people want to sit down for a second and clear their heads. But 5:00 our time is beyond ridiculous. The vast majority of posters are just getting off work then. That is an impossible time to meet at worst and a highly inconvenient time at best.
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I'll make the next one later but when. On a Friday. 8E,7C. 9E/8C.
Ummm, no! Not on a fricking Friday. No one wants to fricking watch Star Wars on Friday. We want to go to a Happy Hour and to hang out with friends.
Sorry, but most posters here have some sort of social life that doesn't rotate around your lack of social life. It's pretty clear you don't have a job if you think these are good hours. The only actual good times to put a watch party together are Tuesday through Thursday night around 7:30-8:00 Central time. I like to get home, get changed, work out, and have some dinner, as do a sizable portion of the posters here. At best I can do that by 7:30. No one wants to turn on Star Wars the second after they're done with a hard day's work. That's simply ridiculous to ask posters to start watching Star Wars at 5:00 on Monday or anytime on a Friday.
So let's go back to my post from earlier: 7:30 on Wednesday we watch the original Star Wars, Empire the same time next week, and then Jedi the week after that. That seems like a reasonable time when most schedules would be open. Who is down?
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:36 pm to Breesus
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I think of that fight like the fight in princess bride.
The beginning is more testing each other and showing off skill than it is trying to kill the other.
You would have to think of it like that. All three of the combatants do stupid shite from the beginning.
1. Maul backs onto a platform edge boxed in by the two Jedi and a computer console and noticeably has to check his balance. (Poor strategy.)
2. From there he backflips to a catwalk near the edge and then allows the Jedi to leap to the same catwalk to either side of him on the edge while having his blades out. (Why does he let them land and not chops their legs out as the fly towards him? Just had to put the double-blades up.)
3. After being knocked to a lower platform by Jinn, Maul lays on his arse until Jinn jumps down right next to him. Again having his light blades out. (Easily could have skewered Jinn as he leapt down.)
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:43 pm to OMLandshark
Someone's salty lol.
Ill reconsider my times.
Ill reconsider my times.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:52 pm to OMLandshark
Agreed. The times were shifty. I'm going to watch. 5 is way too early. 7/8 is more reasonable. Gonna watch TPM tomorrow night after I get off.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:57 pm to OMLandshark
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Qui Gon was drunk the entire time, so I doubt he knew.
They don't call him Qui Gon Gin for nothing
Posted on 12/1/15 at 8:48 am to Civildawg
I watched this again a few days ago. It's still my second favorite prequel but I was surprised at how many practical effects were int his movie as opposed to 2 and 3 and how badly the CGI had aged. The droid tanks in the battle vs the Gungans looked like something out of a PS2 cutscene.
I just watched Episode 3 not long before and the CGI was much better. I guess that's the difference between a movie made in 1999 and 2005.
I just watched Episode 3 not long before and the CGI was much better. I guess that's the difference between a movie made in 1999 and 2005.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 8:50 am
Posted on 12/1/15 at 9:50 am to athenslife101
EPI would have been ok if you take out Jar Jar and give Darth Maul about 20 more minutes of screen time.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:14 am to OMLandshark
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So let's go back to my post from earlier: 7:30 on Wednesday we watch the original Star Wars, Empire the same time next week, and then Jedi the week after that. That seems like a reasonable time when most schedules would be open. Who is down?
7:30 is much better.
I can skip the prequels as well.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:16 am to athenslife101
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Ill reconsider my times.
No, I think we will just go with OML and Wednesdays. Though feel free to post your thoughts on these movies. It's just silly as all hell to start a watch thread and be the only one watching the movie at that time.
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