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re: Star Wars 'The Last Jedi' Tomatometer Watch - 95%

Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:00 pm to
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I've seen ROTJ hundreds of times, probably more than any other movie I've ever seen, and I never thought about that.
it's not a huge deal, but it's really really fricking stupid and kind of pulls you out of the movie

can ghosts be tired?
can ghosts be uncomfortable?

also they're in the middle of an unpopulated swamp, and they look like they're sitting on a couch chatting. imagine if ghost obi wan was leaning with his arm against a branch and had his legs crossed it's so stupid.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Jedi is a superior film to TFA


Meh. Jedi benefits from being the end of the trilogy which means that you have characters, conflicts, and plot lines in which you're already invested. You're list is comparing the entirety of the character in the OT to characters from just TFA. For instance, no doubt that Darth Vader, encompassing the entire OT, is better than Ren. But is ROTJ Vader better than Ren? I would argue no. Vader plays the role of henchman to Palpatine's main villain and has a limited role in the film until the very end whereas Ren is a highly volatile, unstable character who ultimately engages in the worst evil in the film.

And, as I said earlier, ROTJ is a very disjointed film. There is not a lot of flow to the narrative whereas, for its faults, TFA tells a complete and smooth story.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:03 pm to
worst scene in the movie by a long shot

"some say he went looking for the first jedi temple"...han acts as if he met luke skywalker this one time. just say he disappeared...why do we need to know where he went or what he was looking for...there's still the mystery of why he would do that, but it would be better at the end if the audience was wondering "what is this place? why is luke here?" you know, like it was an adventure or something.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:20 pm to
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Jedi benefits from being the end of the trilogy which means that you have characters, conflicts, and plot lines in which you're already invested.
very true, but somewhat offset by the frustration of that while it's resolved and ends the story...it doesn't do it well. it's all rushed and neat.

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But is ROTJ Vader better than Ren?
empire is the movie that establishes vader as one of, if not the most iconic villains. and in the next movie while his just taking orders from the emperor establishes the emperor, the way in which he does it makes vader look like a huge bitch. the emperor has about as much respect for him as he would his cleaning lady. also, vader doesn't kill anyone in the movie. he's just not the intimidating presence he was in the first movies, particularly empire where failure is punished with death.

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Ren is a highly volatile, unstable character who ultimately engages in the worst evil in the film.
ren has a personal investment in achieving his objective, we just have not the slightest clue as to ren's beef with luke. we know obi wan's beef with vader in the original, and in empire we mostly know why vader wants luke...we just don't understand that it's personal until the end.

This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Bonkers119
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:24 pm to
Over under on the amount of time it takes Blueboy to come in here and shite all over TLJ after he sees it? 30 mins maybe?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:37 pm to
don't know. I have a tendency to focus on negative traits of movies I like when even though the movie is good, it has sooo many flaws. how I feel about TFA. whereas Kingsmen 2 has problems but it's a short list so my mind is better able to focus on the fun i'm having and not the fun i'm not having.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:40 pm to
blueboy is a strange guy. i think he points out legitimate good and bad in movies...he's intense and dogmatic so it rubs people the wrong way. good poster, i enjoy fricking with him though.

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ver under on the amount of time it takes Blueboy to come in here and shite all over TLJ after he sees it? 30 mins maybe?


i don't know how long, but yeah i would put my money on him not liking it.
Posted by The Godfather
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:40 pm to
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Over under on the amount of time it takes Blueboy to come in here and shite all over TLJ after he sees it? 30 mins maybe?




You underestimate him, he started soon after the first teaser trailer



and back on topic..TLJ is back to 94%


This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:02 pm to
I don’t trust the tomato meter...especially for a blockbuster release with the name power of “Star Wars”

I hope it improves upon the first one, that’s all you can ask for
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33552 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:06 pm to
Metacritic has it at 85 with 49 reviews
Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
42456 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:10 pm to
was just looking at that. It has 10 reviews with a score of 100

Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:20 pm to
I should rephrase, I don't trust reviews period. no need to anyway, i'm going to see it regardless.

1. a lot of reviews will praise a bad movie because it's a brand name. don't want to be the one to shite on the new star wars...or maybe they got paid

2. a lot of reviews will take a shite on it because everyone is giving it good reviews and it's a brand name...attention seeking

3. some will be too kind or too harsh because of their personal affinity for the franchise.

4. i read some of the one liners on RT but i won't read any of them because they might spoil. IGN, i do not care if they have "SPOILER FREE" in bright lights, those hipster shite heads can't help it...they put spoilers in their reviews.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:23 pm to
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han acts as if he met luke skywalker this one time.


That really rubbed me the wrong way in TFA, even though I like the movie more than most.

Han acted like Luke was some guy he knew a long time ago.

Not:

The Uncle to his child.
His ex(?)-wife's brother.
a guy he invaded the death star with
helped take down an empire
who saved him from jabba the hut
etc etc etc etc etc

It was kind of bizarre.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:36 pm to
Just to be clear, I really like TFA. it's good. it's just got a long list of little problems.

In the end it’s characters we like and care about
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted by tWildcat
Verona, KY
Member since Oct 2014
20138 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:55 pm to
"In short, it feels like A New Hope"-Ty Burr, Boston Globe

Wtf? Did he watch TFA instead?
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 1:55 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:59 pm to
I saw that. I also hate it when people call “Star Wars” something like “episode IV” or “a new hope”
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33552 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 2:21 pm to
It feels like such a cop out to say that now. Just critique the movie. If it has flaws fine but don't stoop that low.


If anything TFA was a rehash of ANH. Most of the reviews I've seen have said that Rian Johnson takes a lot of risks and def moves the story forward
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86509 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 2:22 pm to
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I have a tendency to focus on negative traits of movies
This is becoming painfully obvious.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12680 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 2:23 pm to
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Most of the exposition in TFA was bad because it was the new characters learning what we already know. The entire scene with Rey and Finn when they meet Han...terrible


Truly awful. "You're Han Solo?!" "This is the Millennium Falcon?!" "That's Chewbacca?!" "You knew Luke Skywalker?!" "This is a galaxy far, far away?!"


I even felt like they screwed up the reveal that Ren was Han’s son. It was both forced and anticlimactic.

Snoke: “The droid we seek is aboard the Millennium Falcon...in the hands of your father...HAN SOLO.

Even seeing it for the first time, I was thinking really did they have to clarify that it was “Han Solo” he was talking about? Yeah, I’m sure there would’ve been lots of confusion about Ren possibly being the son of Finn or BB-8 until Han addressed it later.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33552 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 2:31 pm to
Let's save the nitpicking at shitting all over TFA for another thread
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