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re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:16 pm to auburn32
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:16 pm to auburn32
I guess we'll see. I didn't get any takeaway that Finn was force sensitive. I also found it troubling the Rey could beat Ren in a duel when she has only raw ability and Ren has at least been partially trained.
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:16 pm to wildtigercat93
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Yeah but why wouldn't we have heard them talk about losing their daughter or giving her up?
Because it is a big secret?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:17 pm to Cs
Finn's escape at the beginning of the movie is what made me think he was force sensitive. He learned 2 new weapons in seconds/by 'feel'.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:17 pm to Bamatab
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The guy was raised for the sole purpose of being a badass solder.
What, to fight the terrible backed up toilets and persistent stains in the Death Star 2.0's latrines?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:18 pm to Complete Linebacking
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I guess we'll see. I didn't get any takeaway that Finn was force sensitive. I also found it troubling the Rey could beat Ren in a duel when she has only raw ability and Ren has at least been partially trained.
This is my theory that I posted earlier in this thread; I do think Rey had some partial force training:
"Theory:
Rey is about 8-9 years younger than Kylo and they both attend the Jedi Academy and train to be Jedi.
Kylo meets Snoke at some point, Snoke convinces him the Dark Side is stronger, and turns him rogue.
While Luke is away, Kylo kills all the students at the academy as well as Luke's wife/Rey's mother. He fights with himself in his mind and cannot kill Rey and spares her.
Luke comes back to the Academy and sees the damage done, and cannot live with himself. He wipes Rey's memories, causing her to forget about her Jedi training, and takes her to Jaaku and leaves her to protect her. Luke then goes into hiding, and vows to never use the force again.
In TFA, during the flashback/future? scene:
Rey's tapping into the force abilities were triggered and accelerated when she touched Anakin's lightsaber, and some of her abilities came back.
This would also explain why Kylo seemed hesitant to kill Rey and offered to train her in the force. Perhaps he knows she is related to him."
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:18 pm to Bamatab
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I don't think some realize how injured Kylo actually was. A bowcaster is far more powerful than a blaste
He was apparently well enough to install a few fancy spin moves into his fighting routine.
It didn't look like he was affected at all.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:18 pm to fr33manator
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Death Star 2.0's
Sigh... It is actually Death Star 3.0
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:19 pm to fr33manator
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What, to fight the terrible backed up toilets and persistent stains in the Death Star 2.0's latrines?
No, to be part of a landing party whose purpose was to secure the First Order's biggest threat.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:19 pm to Cs
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t didn't look like he was affected at all.
Exceot for the fact that he looked dog tired and kept hitting himself in the side.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:19 pm to SG_Geaux
Technically, it's more like the Death Star 2.5 or something
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:20 pm to fr33manator
Technically it was a planet converted into some super nuclear-ish/sun weapon which became a sun or a star after the core went unstable 
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:21 pm to Complete Linebacking
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. I also found it troubling the Rey could beat Ren in a duel when she has only raw ability and Ren has at least been partially trained.
Not just beaten - she utterly destroyed him after "meditating" near the cliff. She beat him down repeatedly and was in a killing position had the ground not fractured.
Episode VIII can rectify this if it's revealed that she was trained for years as a child before being abandoned on Jakku.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:21 pm to Bamatab
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No, to be part of a landing party whose purpose was to secure the First Order's biggest threat.
So he wasn't in Sanitation?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:23 pm to SG_Geaux
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Exceot for the fact that he looked dog tired and kept hitting himself in the side.
There is a stream of the entire battle available online. I encourage you to watch it again.
Aside from punching his side a few times in an attempt to dull the pain, his movement doesn't seem to be affected at all. He's the aggressor for the majority of the fight - and, as mentioned, he was apparently well enough to spin around and perform a few fancy moves throughout the fight.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:25 pm to Cs
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He was apparently well enough to install a few fancy spin moves into his fighting routine.
It didn't look like he was affected at all.
The guy had sweat pouring off of his face when he caught up with Rey & Finn, and was bent over favoring his side. It wasn't until he caused himself enough pain (which is one of the "fuels" of the dark side) that he was able to get himself into fighting condition. I believe he was having to use the force just to keep himself moving (which is why he didn't use any force pushes while dueling).
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:27 pm to boXerrumble
quote:I thought Rey was Luke and Leia's kid. That makes the most sense.
While Luke is away, Kylo kills all the students at the academy as well as Luke's wife/Rey's mother
Or Ren, since he clearly has acute potato disease.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:28 pm to ReturnoftheMuschamp
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To be fair, Kylo was fighting after he got shot in the side by a bowcaster and he told Snoke that she was stronger in the Force than him, but didn't know it yet (her strength or how to use it). Keep in mind that before she let the Force in, she was getting worked and being pushed back.
And now she will be trained by Luke. As it stands Kylo is no threat to her so unless something major happens to change their characters in the next movie, there won't be any tension in any type of showdown between the two.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:29 pm to Bamatab
quote:What? I thought she was the one who said "you can understand that thing" to Han.
She definitely could. That was established in their first meeting.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:30 pm to SG_Geaux
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Sigh... It is actually Death Star 3.0
At this point, I don't know what's a worse idea: building the capability to destroy planets or trying to build a theme park around live dinosaurs.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:30 pm to blueboy
Finn said that
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