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re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:04 pm to ReturnoftheMuschamp
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:04 pm to ReturnoftheMuschamp
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No, Hans Zimmer. John Williams passed that torch down to Hans about 15-20 years ago.
Nah. Hans is cut out of a different cloth than John Williams is. I would never mistake a Hans Zimmer score for a John Williams one. Michael Giachinno though, yes I could certainly see myself mixing up the two. He has the whimsical poignancy that Williams had. Zimmer can pull that off, but he's more about capitalizing on the epic feel of it, not its whimsical nature.
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:06 pm to SurfTide
quote:It was about half and half. One of my first posts in this thread on the first page makes the point that enough plot points are different to take the series in an original direction. It's exactly what Rian is hired to do.
you have to admit that this movie has almost zero originality when it comes to the plot right?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:12 pm to ReturnoftheMuschamp
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Look at his works from 1994 (The year he did The Lion King) until now. Look at Williams' resume. He's the best composer going right now and its not even a debate really. At least not an
Listen, GCA, Hans Zimmer is a fantastic composer and I love his work, but he's no John Williams. That's not an insult since they have completely different styles. It's like saying Speilberg is no Stanley Kubrick. Both fine directors, but both make very different styled movies. Giachinno follows Williams style and approach when it comes to his scores. He is Williams heir apparent.
And why is it a bad thing that Zimmer is not Williams heir? He's forged his own path without being in anyone's shadow. If you were to give me an option of having a legacy, I'd rather it be my own and not constantly compared to someone who inspires me, which Giachinno will always be doomed to.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:16 pm to blueboy
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Yeah. He sucks too. Thanks.
Yeah the guy who wrote the best Star Wars film to date (Empire), the second best Indiana Jones movie, The Bodyguard, and has 4 Oscar nominations sucks.
Yeah okay fool.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:18 pm to OMLandshark
I'm not talking about styles when it comes to Williams to Zimmer. I'm talking about being the best composer in the business. Williams was the best and now Zimmer is. Think of it like Manning to Rodgers.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:18 pm to ell_13
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It was about half and half. One of my first posts in this thread on the first page makes the point that enough plot points are different to take the series in an original direction. It's exactly what Rian is hired to do.
I'm disappointed. The Force and good vs evil has always been the central theme but the franchise was carried by cool stuff like Han and the Falcon and bounty hunter and crime lords like Jabba. And that stuff was always my favorite. The force and jedis and sith were always kind of lame to me.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:19 pm to SurfTide
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Maybe some minor other differences, but you get the picture. I didn't like it, so whatever. I do understand why others did like it, however, because it WAS authentic Star Wars. Cool, I get it, but you have to admit that this movie has almost zero originality when it comes to the plot right?
The point of the film was to reestablish faith with the fans. We have been betrayed, largely ignored, looked at with contempt, and continually fricked with by its creator. We're going to be getting a new one every year for the rest of time, so they need to convince the hardcore fans to get back on the band wagon. The first line of the film is "This will start to make things right". That is the exact intent of the film all laid out for you. They played it safe here, I agree, but they'll take many more risks with the sequels.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:23 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Han had to go... Poe is there now sorta meant to take his place as the badass pilot. And I'm sure we haven't met all the characters at this point.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:23 pm to ReturnoftheMuschamp
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I'm not talking about styles when it comes to Williams to Zimmer. I'm talking about being the best composer in the business. Williams was the best and now Zimmer is. Think of it like Manning to Rodgers.
I'd say that's subjective. I'd say it's clearly down to Zimmer and Giachino, and I myself prefer the later. Giachino's work on LOST alone you could put against 99% of composer's collective work and it alone is better than it, nevertheless his many other projects.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:24 pm to ell_13
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Han had to go... Poe is there now sorta meant to take his place as the badass pilot. And I'm sure we haven't met all the characters at this point.
I'm fine with Han getting killed off. He was like 90 years old. Although I don't like how he went out. Poe was my favorite character and I immediately liked him right from the start.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:28 pm to OMLandshark
quote:I said it would be formulaic, and it was. I didn't say anything about similarity to the OT.
Oh wise Nostradamus, thinking the sequel would be similar to the Original, teach us more.
And I also said that Fisher would be hard to watch because of the marble-mouthed Bruce Jenner botox voice. Slam dunk on that one.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:30 pm to OMLandshark
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I'd say that's subjective. I'd say it's clearly down to Zimmer and Giachino, and I myself prefer the later. Giachino's work on LOST alone you could put against 99% of composer's collective work and it alone is better than it, nevertheless his many other projects.
Well I'm not really disagreeing with you when you say he's a great composer or that his style is like Williams'. You want the best composer with a style like Williams and you believe that to be Giachino. I want the best composer PERIOD and I believe that to be Zimmer.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:30 pm to ReturnoftheMuschamp
quote:Well, it was a lazy, formulaic script. Ridley Scott has made great movies, but Prometheus sucked. It happens.
Yeah okay fool.
Look, I was keeping all of my hate in my thread, but it got whacked, so don't blame me for bringing it here. Apparently, this is what I was supposed to do.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:32 pm to ell_13
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quote: you have to admit that this movie has almost zero originality when it comes to the plot right?
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It was half and half
I honestly cannot fathom how anybody thinks that half this movie's plot was made up of original ideas. I would put it at about 10% personally.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:33 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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The force and jedis and sith were always kind of lame to me.
If that's the case, this might not be the property for you.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:33 pm to SurfTide
quote:This is closest to where I am. IV is probably my favorite movie of all time, so this one was emotional for me at times, but I don't think it was great. As a movie, I'd probably place it 4th.
and the "I didn't like it, it was basically A New Hope told all over again."
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:36 pm to VoxDawg
No. I like Star Wars mostly because of the supporting cast in the originals. Han, Bobo Fett, R2D2 and Lando were always my favorites. The good vs evil thing was just a vehicle to tell their stories IMO.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:46 pm to Rebel Land Shark
Did BB-8 flick off Finn or give him a thumbs up?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:49 pm to JabarkusRussell
I thought it was a return thumbs up
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:56 pm to JabarkusRussell
Thumbs up. BB-8 was hilarious
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