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re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:00 am to
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:00 am to
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it was the only piece of new music that was really memorable but it was incredible.


I was very disappointed in John Williams. In the prequels he had great themes like Duel of the Fates, Across the Stars, and Battle of the Heroes. Nothing stood out in this outside of the recycled themes.

BTW, I hope they make a new Rebels/Clone Wars type show that fills in the pieces of what Han, Luke, and Leia were up to.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:06 am to
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Rey just became more in tune with the force quicker after she touched Luke's lightsaber and went through that trial/revelation scene. The force AWAKENED in her. We haven't seen that happen before and that's why a lot of people aren't accepting it. Because we learned something new about the force that wasn't established before this movie.


Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:08 am to
LINK


Here's a link to the final fight if anyone wants to watch again, mind it is in another language
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:09 am to
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I was very disappointed in John Williams.



I unfortunately agree with this. i think the music playing when Snoke was on screen was the only thing that stood out, the rest was meh.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:10 am to
Shmi should have had an abortion. Her genes produced both Anakin and Kylo. Also, grandkids that make out with each other.
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:15 am to
Those that are complaining about Rey being able to do a lot of shite with the force ought to remember the title of the movie is "The Force Awakens" which could not only reference the horizontal spread of the force (I kinda hope Rey is not Luke's daughter) but also the vertical spread of it (increased capability)

I'm not gonna read through the 10 pages that have been posted since I last checked this thread but I hope this has been pointed out.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:18 am to
Before the film started, the owner of the theater spoke about ground rules (no phones, no talking, etc). One person asked "What if Han Solo is killed? Can we talk then?" If I had not been up to date with spoilers, I'd have punched the guy in the face.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:21 am to
I liked that instead of the son trying to redeem the father, the father tried to redeem the son. Also, in real life, Rey would have froze to death wearing an outfit that she wore on a desert planet.
Posted by WAY2GOLSU
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:21 am to
So why did R2 wait to give the other part of the map?
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:22 am to
Thanks. I seriously thought IPT would have a cam screener up by now.
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:25 am to
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So why did R2 wait to give the other part of the map?


I don't think we're supposed to know yet. I'm betting Luke knows more than we do right now and he told R2 to wait until Rey (or whoever connects with his old saber) got there. But what do I know. There are lots of unanswered questions, as there should be for the first of a trilogy.
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 2:35 am
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:25 am to
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So why did R2 wait to give the other part of the map?


Convenient writing. I can't believe so many of the original characters were barely in the movie. Leia doesn't show up until the 3rd act and Luke the final scene. 3P0 might as well have been a cameo. The same with R2. We've gone from the original being told from the POV of the droids to a cameo. The only originals with sufficient screen time were Han and Chewie.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:29 am to
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She had been fighting her whole like to understand and believe in something. Luke didnt have that drive or that path.


Seriously? "This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away, to the future , to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was, hmm? What he was doing."



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Snoke
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 2:36 am
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:37 am to
My guess as well. When 3PO basically says R2 has been in hibernation, you know R2 going to wake up to complete the map. SW isn't rocket science.

But the point shouldn't be "oh, that's convenient". The point should be why then? And I agree Luke's droid awakens on Rey's presence. Does that mean Rey may be Luke's daughter, maybe. Or maybe not.

In SW, there usually aren't coincidences. I mean what are the chances Leia's ship gets overpowered right over Tatoinne and R2 with Death Star plans just happens to jettison ship right on Luke farmboys planet and R5-D4 blows a converter putting R2-D2 into the hands of Luke?
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:40 am to
One reason that Vader had to die in Jedi is because none of the rebels would have welcomed him into the fray after everything he had done. I don't see Kylo being able to do this either. Only Luke, Leia, and maybe Rey would forgive him.

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Can we have just one major character not related to everyone in the movie? huge universe, and everyone is everyone's father


You mean how Yoda trained Dooku who trained Qui Gon who trained Obi-Wan who trained Luke?
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 2:43 am
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:40 am to
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My guess as well. When 3PO basically says R2 has been in hibernation, you know R2 going to wake up to complete the map. SW isn't rocket science.

But the point shouldn't be "oh, that's convenient". The point should be why then? And I agree Luke's droid awakens on Rey's presence. Does that mean Rey may be Luke's daughter, maybe. Or maybe not.


And also, during Rey's vision after she touches the lightsaber you see the clip of Luke touching R2. Seems to me, that's probably when Luke was telling R2 to go to sleep and when to wake up. When the saber and her wielder gets to him.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:42 am to
Just got home and I'm amazed how incredible of a job Abrams did. Hit a fricking home run here.

I know some didn't like Driver, but I enjoyed the shite out of his performance. I'm really into how he'll transition. Like I said in another thread, he's the Manziel of the dark side.

Love all the new characters as well. Thought it was a legit 10 in my book.
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:43 am to
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Seriously? "This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away, to the future , to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was, hmm? What he was doing."


There's a huge difference between Luke being bored and wanting something more and Rey fending for herself and learning how to survive alone from childhood. Luke was coddled and provided for. Rey was not.
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 2:44 am
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:00 am to
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And also, during Rey's vision after she touches the lightsaber you see the clip of Luke touching R2. Seems to me, that's probably when Luke was telling R2 to go to sleep and when to wake up. When the saber and her wielder gets to him.
This is exactly how I see it.

Star Wars is the reluctant hero mythology, we all know this. It's also about destiny and choice. As stated prior, it amazes me "convenience" of story is now somehow an issue. Leia's ship gets boarded by Vader, she gives R2 DS plans, R2 jettisons onto Luke's planet (16 years he's been there as farmboy), Uncle Owen needs new droids, they pick an R5 that blows out 10 seconds after purchase, they decide on R2, R2 shows Leia "Obi-Wan message", R2 runs away to find Obi-Wan, etc...

Wow, that is a lot of coincidence. Point being, R2 is Luke's droid and trusted companion after it's all said and done. Luke has exiled himself, proposing the need to find him - by both factions. Luke trusts his droid to reactivate pending the right circumstances. R2 obliges as he would. If I'm not mistaken BB8 was already there and R2 didn't activate.

So the question is why now? He could have shown the rest of the map earlier. He was waiting for a reason. The saber and her wielder as you said.
Posted by TimmyTigah
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:07 am to
Snoke, who is basically assumed to be Plagueis at this point, tells Kylo Ren to bring the girl to him. He obviously knows something special about her. On top of that, Plagueis is known to have a staff. Rey carries around a staff that could belong to him. She has this at the beginning of the movie and the end.



Finn, I believe he still may become a Jedi. Why did they match Han saying "Jedi" with his visual in the trailer and he has shown some saber-skills although his force understanding is in question.

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