re: Star Wars plothole going into Last Jedi

I don’t care about the “bolt caster to the stomach”.

The fight set up KYLO being the one who will grow stronger than Rey. The protagonist doesn’t dominate the antagonist in their first confrontation no matter the circumstances. See ESB. Vader was holding back on purpose and STILL dominated Luke.

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Rey is Palpatines daughter 

Her fighting style is identical to his. No way that just happens. 

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Well we know who watched that YouTube video

She says she is a pilot in the movie several times.

She says she has never flown the Falcon but she has experience with it.

I’m rewatching the movie now and she even has a line about knowing specific modifications made on the ship.

She developed her mechanical skill as a scavenger, yes. That’s not that unlikely. She gets paid in the quality of parts she brings in. So she has to learn about how these mechanical parts work so she can get more.

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with a side dish of diversity, girl power and homos

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I haven't really followed any of the speculation about the upcoming movie so I could be way off, but I think that if Kylo Ren gets any redemption, it will be in the "sacrifice himself and die at the same time he gets "redeemed" way.

Of course, I never really considered that Vader's action somehow wiped away all the horrible stuff he did. When the average person thinks of Vader today, I'm pretty sure it's as a villain. Besides, Anakin was always pretty much a whiny a-hole, at least according to the prequels.

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In my opinion, the big plothole (that I suspect will be solved) is why Rey, someone who seemingly had zero force training and knowledge, picked it up so quickly and easily. My suspicion is that the movie will reveal something about Rey's past that she was forced to forget.

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She was using both the light and the dark side of the force

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In my opinion, the big plothole (that I suspect will be solved) is why Rey, someone who seemingly had zero force training and knowledge, picked it up so quickly and easily. My suspicion is that the movie will reveal something about Rey's past that she was forced to forget.

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The secret is girl power. Doubt they will attempt to explain it.

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EXCEPT neither could whoop arse with a lightsaber until two movies in - so they better have a good reason she trumps their ALREADY genius progression

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They've already given a good reason. Did you watch TFA?

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Pretty sure he says "raw power" in the trailer.

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Power seem to be Palpatine's catchphrase. I just binged Ep 1-3 this weekend, and I noticed he says "unlimited power" when he blasts Mace Windu out the window.

Palpatine was behind the scenes with the Kamino clone stuff, too. The Kaminoans told Kenobi that Syphodius (sp) arranged the clone army... but then Kenobi said he's been dead 10 yrs (that goes back to the beginning of the deal). Jango tells the truth when he said he was hired by Tyrannus (Dooku). So it sounds like there might have been more than just an army, and a baby boy for Fett in the deal. Remember, Order 66 came preprogrmmed, so the Kaminoans put that into the clone troopers... something they likely wouldn't tell any Jedi that came to claim the army (as Yoda eventually did).

Palpatine seemed to plan for everything, and he was acutely aware that his apprentices would eventually try to kill him. He knew one might eventually succeed as Vader did; a cloned body overloaded with midichlorians (I hate them, but they are part of canon) might have been his backup plan.
Snoke could have been a failed attempt, he can control the body but it's decaying and deformed. Rey might have been a later, more improved version, that someone stole before she could be prepared to be his host. She'd be physiologically set up to handle Palpatine's power, which would explain why she's such a quick learner/user of the Force... she just needs to flip the switch and has his power.

And I don't remember the details of it, but I do seem to remember that it's easier to produce a female, than a male when you mess with genetics (per "real" science).


Ren, as a Skywalker, might ironically be the key to defusing Palpatine's plan again. As Rey strengthens, she might become more Dark Side as Palpatine's influence kicks in, and Ren might conversely be pulling away from the Dark Side as it happens. Maybe he's cast aside when a stronger apprentice (Rey) appears on the scene, and he's the anti-hero at the end (much like the threat of going after Leia is what ignited Luke and ultimately helped inspire Vader, the threat of turning Rey might be the play that turns Ren). Hell, he worships Vader, maybe Annakin's Force ghost eventually appears to him and tells him he has been deceived.

It seems like a way to tie in to the prequels as well as the OT.

Also, how much do you want to bet we get a Force ghost Kenobi this movie? Luke was communing with Ben the entire OT, and that was before he learned what he was doing. We no longer need an actor to do this (see- Leia and Tarkin), and for damn sure, Luke would want some feedback and info when Rey shows up with more power than he's ever seen. "WTF Ben, you told me this was over".