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re: 'Star Wars: Andor' | Tomatometer 86% after 204 reviews

Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:20 am to
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:20 am to
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I hate these clearly bought and paid for reviews.


But wait...when the show comes out and it's blasted with 1 star reviews, it'll be called review bombing and the claims of toxic fandom, racism and misogyny will be tossed out.

Turns out, when you openly continue to tell your long time fans that made your IP one of the most valuable of all time that you hate them and they are bad people, they leave.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:21 am to
Is it any of that at all going on with this show?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:26 am to
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Is it any of that at all going on with this show?


Any of what?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115833 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:27 am to
That it will get blasted with 1 star reviews, or that it is openly telling fans how much they hate them?

What if, and I know this is crazy...its a really good show and people like it?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:32 am to
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That it will get blasted with 1 star reviews, or that it is openly telling fans how much they hate them?

What if, and I know this is crazy...its a really good show and people like it?


I have no clue, just speculating given recent shows. it could do the unthinkable and flip the script on most of what Disney has done to Star Wars and fans will return in droves. The show doesn't tell people they hate them...the creators do when they inevitably feel the need to argue with fans.**

Call me skeptical.

And if it does go down the road most traveled by Disney recently and DOES get bad reviews, we all know what will be trotted out to ignore any negative comments. It's been going on for years now.

**Drinker did a great video kind of about this topic a week or so ago. This new desire of creators to openly pick fights with the very fans they need to watch their movies/tv shows.

LINK
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57316 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:44 am to
Why do people even bother with the early reviews? Most of these reviewers are paid stooges who cream themselves to corporate entertainment
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115833 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:46 am to
Jeff Lowe isn't a paid stooge.

We could just...see if its any good when it comes out.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57316 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:49 am to
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We could just...see if its any good when it comes out.


I’ll wait for real reviews from people I trust before I waste my time letting Disney try and convince me to become a tranny
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20404 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:53 am to
I have some hopes for this show, but I acknowledge it may disappoint me.

The reviews come across a bit mixed (in my take)... I do like the adult-oriented angle. I cringed when the Ewoks appeared in ROTJ, and they started focusing on cuteness. That was never the appeal of Star Wars to me, it was more of the fantastical sci-fi concepts. And I say that, having been a Star Wars fan as a kid when it came out.

The movies lost me, but I admit Mandalorian sucked me back in.

People who want "canon", that's kinda what has sucked more. I'd rather see new stories in the big overall setting, and leave the original storylines and characters alone. Mando >> Boba Fett >> Kenobi
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15554 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:02 am to
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Fun Bunch
That it will get blasted with 1 star reviews, or that it is openly telling fans how much they hate them?

What if, and I know this is crazy...its a really good show and people like it?


I know this is crazy, but

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Actor Fiona Shaw, who will be playing the adoptive mother of Cassian Andor himself, put the aims of the series in no uncertain terms:

"Tony has written a great, scurrilous [take] on the Trumpian world. Our world is exploding in different places right now, people's rights are disappearing, and 'Andor' reflects that. [In the show] the Empire is taking over, and it feels like the same thing is happening in reality, too."

This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 11:04 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66523 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:11 am to
You can’t write about the empire without writing about evil authoritarians.

The comparison to trump from liberal actors is inevitable but I don't get why people get upset by stuff like this.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:12 am to
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People who want "canon", that's kinda what has sucked more. I'd rather see new stories in the big overall setting, and leave the original storylines and characters alone. Mando >> Boba Fett >> Kenobi


Oh, with this I 100% agree, but I think it's what Disney was using to try and lure back in old fans like you and me. I never had ANY interest in ever seeing Luke, Han, Leia, etc ever again. Their story ended, perfectly, at the end of ROTJ. We could have had TFA, but just had it jump several hundred years into the future, which honestly would have helped because it made no sense to me that "The First Order" was basically bigger and more powerful than The Empire after ROTJ had neutered them only a few short decades later. Made all the events of the 1st Trilogy pointless.

And from there, pick up new characters and new adventures. That way legacy characters don't get ruined by new creators (frick you with a cactus, JJ. Abrams & Rian Johnson) and new characters don;t have to compete with old fan favorites.

But nah...Disney wanted to both milk legacy characters for their nostalgia AND destroy them so that it made their new characters look better.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:14 am to
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Actor Fiona Shaw, who will be playing the adoptive mother of Cassian Andor himself, put the aims of the series in no uncertain terms:

"Tony has written a great, scurrilous [take] on the Trumpian world. Our world is exploding in different places right now, people's rights are disappearing, and 'Andor' reflects that. [In the show] the Empire is taking over, and it feels like the same thing is happening in reality, too."


"WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS STOP BRIGING YOUR POLITICS INTO THESE SHOWS?!? CAN'T YOU JUST WATCH (CONSUME) THESE SHOWS WITHOUT MAKING THEM POLITICAL?!?"

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:19 am to
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The comparison to trump from liberal actors is inevitable but I don't get why people get upset by stuff like this.


Because...why?

Why do it at all? Even if they thought that, which would be idiotic, WHY bait a large portion of the fan base with a political hot button take in the press? It's as if they're TRYING to alienate fans.

Sure, it caters to "their" side of things, and they'll get lots of love on Twitter which does not equal actual views, but would it not make more sense, at least from a...you know...business perspective to STOP spitting in the eyes of potential viewers?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66523 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:21 am to
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Because...why?


Because liberals see trump as a big evil authoritarian villain.

So they will compare him to every big evil authoritarian villain

quote:

Why do it at all? Even if they thought that, which would be idiotic, WHY bait a large portion of the fan base with a political hot button take in the press? It's as if they're TRYING to alienate fans.


Because actors are usually super liberal and they can’t help themselves.

quote:

Sure, it caters to "their" side of things, and they'll get lots of love on Twitter which does not equal actual views, but would it not make more sense, at least from a...you know...business perspective to STOP spitting in the eyes of potential viewers?


I mean You’re not wrong but I also Don’t put much stock into what the actors say.

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57316 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:27 am to
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Don’t put much stock into what the actors say.


Nor should you.

They are barely functioning retards in real life
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:28 am to
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Because actors are usually super liberal and they can’t help themselves.


Why? This is a relatively new phenomenon. Plenty of actors had "controversial" opinions and understood that in order to sell their movie they needed to keep their piehole shut.

Hell...Michael Jordan understood that "Republicans buy shoes too."

Look...I don't care that they do it either. I kind of like knowing where they stand, so that I can more proactively make sure I don't hand them my money. But from a strategic point of view, it makes no sense. There are obviously FAR greater numbers of people on "the other" side of the aisle than there are Twitter activists who may scream a lot there but never actually support these things with their money or time.

Simply STAY OUT of political controversies and attempt to lure fans in with good stories. But if they keep doing this, there is no reason to ever "give the show a chance" from the people they are openly denigrating...which automatically limits their potential audience.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66523 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:31 am to
Pre internet I never Heard a single actor interview promoting a movie. IIdont watch late night shows so I guess That’s where I would See them.

I would Just see a trailer and go see a movie or show and I was 100% better off.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:37 am to
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Pre internet I never Heard a single actor interview promoting a movie. IIdont watch late night shows so I guess That’s where I would See them.


Sure, you'd see them on Carson or Letterman or shows like that. But they'd turn up on daytime shows like GMA or Today Show doing press. they'd be on Entertainment Tonight, and you had tons of magazine dedicated specifically to promoting movies/tv.

The reason a handful of older actors stand out as being remembered as being openly political is because how few actually WERE in public. most allowed the studio and their handlers to lead them into not making an a-hole out of themselves sin public, thereby keeping as wide an audience as possible.

Today, it's the rare actor that you DON'T know their political stance on everything that happens ever day.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37584 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:40 am to
I have zero interest in that story

I’m committed to the Mandalorian timeline and every timeline that follows it
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